ExBethelitenowPIMA

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  PFIZER DOCUMENTS and the ugly truth about the cover up

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  video : what’s in the pfizer documents?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9y_w_30hsm&t=51s.

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  The GB still haven’t done a U turn on vax mandates for all theocratic schools. The data is obvious now it’s harmful but they continue to insist on these harmful jabs.

  The GB are definitely causing division. I have heard of some going to schools who haven’t kept up with boosters and in fact haven’t had any boosters for over a year, and others on the school getting irate that they had to get boosted just before the school.

  Other examples of folks who had not taken any they were fully unvaccinated and the CO pressured them to go and get three before the pioneer school or SKE or Kingdom ministry school.

  there is confusion over what fully vaccinated means, to some if it’s been six months since your last shot then you are no longer fully vaccinated.

  The coordinator has been told to check with everyone planning on attending any school and report to the CO. He then reports to the branch who report to the GB.

  Im amazed they still haven’t done that long expected U turn.

  the numbers of people who can’t go to the schools will increase as it’s been longer than six months since last jab
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  Predict JW life in future

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

  some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

  why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

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  the situation is many of us are PIMA and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe. Or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.

  but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.

  This can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say. It’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.

  My agnosticism just means I won’t look back over decades thinking I wasted my life. You can still have hope being agnostic and this hope is somewhat comforting.

  If you believe in evolution there is no possible hope at all everything is pointless and without purpose.

  I don’t think the GB are right about everything but I have hope that the Bibles promises may have some truth to them.

  This leads to the question are you better off having a little bit of hope, than nothing at all? Are you better off believing something that may not be true? Ignorance is bliss?

  I have come to the conclusion that even if evolution is true, for me being agnostic and sitting on the fence having a little bit of hope in the Bibles promises has advantages.

  As long as you don’t look back over your life feeling you wasted any of it. Live life to the full and being comfortable with the fact that we may never know the entire truth until the day we die. But that little bit of hope there is better than nothing at all.

  that’s where I’m at. Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.
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  Why are JW's THIS blind?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

  an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

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  The September 2022 Study Watchtower, par. 14 p. 18 - in black & white - makes the claim that "...no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world."
  

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  maybe they mean depending on how vile depends on if they are given a bit more time.

  if it’s the Dali Lama kissing young boys and asked them to suck his tongue then he will be destroyed before such a vile thing happened.

  If it’s someone struggling with something that Jehovah hates then maybe they will be given a little bit more time and some may indeed be able to change

  so it’s not a contradiction to say in the September 2022 Study Watchtower, par. 14 p. 18 - in black & white - makes the claim that "...no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world."
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  Why are JW's THIS blind?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

  an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

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  BoogerMan15 hours ago

  @ ExBethelite - you are merely repeating your assertion that there is no contradiction with the two statements in the WT, but haven't answered the question:

  Do you believe (based on WT dogma) that during the millenium people will be practicing evil deeds? (the act of doing something regularly or repeatedly)

  A simple 'yes' or 'no' will suffice

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  Im agnostic so can’t answer yes or no. Agnostic means you can’t ever know for sure if it’s intelligent design or chance at the very start of everything.

  I can’t answer yes or no to if I believe in God or the Bible.

  Im sitting on the fence basically
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  Zoom Ministry

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this post on ex-jw reddit so i thought i'd bring here.

  zoom service, what are your observations/opinions of it?.

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  Zoom has been great at getting to know others in far flung congregation’s

  I think the org wishes they hadn’t opened that can of worms

  some folks are invited to join other groups someone who knows someone

  I have joined zoom ministry groups of a friend of a friend it’s like a big party

  nobody actually writes letters that is just a front for chatting to people all over the world
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  New convention video: Do you see what I see?

  by neat blue dog in

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  The guy walking on the beach had a beard but I don’t think anyone would notice
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  Why are JW's THIS blind?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

  an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

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  There is no contradiction in JW doctrine here

  I have said many times these cheap shots do no favours to the apostate community
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses maintain a database of 'Sudden Deaths' within Bethel Families around the world?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  99% were vaccinated.. .

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studionewsreports/docid-702021091_1_video.

  correction, there is no such thing as a bethel family, bethel hotel, yes, there always been bethelites coming and going.

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  We should all sarcastically say to all JWs we ever meet “Jehovah was so good giving clear direction to be fully vaccinated. Don’t listen to all these conspiracy theories from Satan that the vaccine is not safe and effective. Jehovah knows it is safe and effective and don’t listen to Satan’s world saying tens of millions of people are dying from blood clots and other vaccine related deaths. That just can’t be true because the direction from Jehovah is still to keep taking these vaccines”

  until the direction changes all JWs have been taught to follow direction and keep taking these boosters
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  Why are JW's THIS blind?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

  an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

  the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

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  @ ExBethelite & DJW - Just to be clear, are you saying that during the millenium some people will practice evil deeds, (the act of doing something regularly or repeatedly) or they won't?
  

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  Im agnostic so I don’t know.

  But I’m saying there is no contradiction in JW doctrine. They are saying those that practice vile things in the old world will not be tolerated in the new world. They have a choice so if they choose to practice vile things then they will be destroyed. Simple as that.

  how far they get practicing vile things before they get destroyed?
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  Predict JW life in future

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

  some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

  why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

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  I wonder how many are physically in but mentally at least doubting the GB or like me full blown thinking the GB are wrong about lots of things?

  but like me they enjoy being physically in and can see how being physically in has many advantages and it’s very pleasant to see how people clean up their lives and avoid all kinds of problems by being physically in

  I suspect there will be many more people like me who are physically staying in for the advantages but mentally not getting too invested because they are doubting the GB