Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Tonis I do understand what you are saying but I think you are throwing in a lot of bad religious leaders in the same boat as the Bible when in fact they are in a complete different boat.

I know I sound like a PIMI JW but the more scientific discoveries there are the more science supports the Bible. They had no idea about DNA or bacteria when the Bible was written yet the Bible was right about these things long before modern discoveries show the Bible was way ahead of its time. You saw the embryo of me. In its book all my parts were down in writing this is DNA. All the laws about hygiene shows the Bible was right when they had no idea about these things for a long time maybe thousands of years after. As we know they believed the earth was flat on turtles and an elephant for a long after the Bible said it is a sphere hanging on nothing.

So Science and the Bible are in one boat and religion is in another. Personally I want to be in the boat with science and the Bible.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I’m still open to the possibility of chance as the origin of the universe. I’m PIMA and as everyone knows agnostic means not willing to commit either way.

While considering the possibility of chance as the start of everything because that has some advantages, I also hold to a hope of intelligent design and the Bibles promises maybe coming true.

You can’t force me into any box, I think this is the best way to be happy. Take what is most beneficial to you at the time and always consider the possibility a certain belief maybe true or maybe not.

when you really think about it that is what PIMI JWs believe anyway. They have the hope of a resurrection, or the hope that they will be part of their great crowd that the Bible says will survive Armageddon. This is just a hope not a certainty.

I also have this hope being agnostic. This is the advantage of believing in intelligence at the start of the universe.

The advantages of believing in chance as a possibility (still agnostic) is that you won’t feel you wasted so much time believing something that wasn’t true which can really break some people.

Plan B as it were.

Just in case the Bible is not right, I won’t have any regrets reading it everyday and going deep studying it because it’s so interesting and beneficial.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Cofty I have read both side and watched countless videos, it would take far too long to go through all me or you have studied over the last few decades.

IMO it’s all been debunked

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

No Zombie I agree 100% but try getting that through to Cofty.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Joey like I said pretty bleak.

No wonder so many people are unhappy

begs the question is hope a good thing even if it’s possible not entirely true?

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I certainly did not admit to having never read a science book in my life, in fact what I said was I read lots of books with an open mind and I like to look at both sides of the story. You seem very familiar with straw man techniques.

You also sound like you are changing your mind slowly about the origin of the universe, are you now possibly considering intelligence having something to do with it?

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

No Zombie “I'd rather know, because its my nature. Sadly many people just can't cope with truth, but I can be ... while being sort of happy ... and that enough for me. ”

What if knowing the truth means there is no hope whatsoever? It was all chance no purpose for anything or anyone?

Would not being sure about that be better? Perhaps a little possibility of a hope is better than no hope?

You mentioned the concentration camp example. If people were telling you for certain you will be worked and starved to death eventually in a horrible way. Would you hold onto a little bit of hope that maybe something will happen and you will be freed or not killed somehow?

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Slimboyfat “The things I know are vastly outnumbered by the things I don’t know, and many of the things I think I know I am likely wrong about too.”

This is precisely my view. I think it’s very arrogant to be like Cofty and be so sure you have found the truth of the origin of the universe.

My entire point of the thread was that some mysteries are best left unsolved and this makes life interesting.

https://youtu.be/8ZYhuvIv1pA

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

“Abiogenesis was chemistry doing its thing. It happened incredibly quickly on earth and has probably happened millions of times on similar planets. It was 'chance' in the same way that when a rock rolls down a hill there is an element of chance in where it will end up but we don't resort to intelligent design to explain why it rolled.”

Cofty did chemistry do it’s thing originally by chance or was it intelligent design?

The origin of the universe and of life either came about by chance or ID. There is no other option.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

No Zombie I am totally on the same wavelength as you, I thought exact same when watching Silo.

im upto episode 8 and cat wait to find out answers.

but the entire theme is would you be happier not knowing answers and keep your blinkers on? Can you be comfortable with not knowing? If you can master this then you have the best chance of being happy and content