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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “Please tell me about all these biologists who conclude that all life descended from a common ancestor over millions of years who reject natural processes as a cause. I'm NOT talking about the origin of life or the origin of the universe.”

  This is the problem Cofty. We are talking about different things. 😁 I am talking about if intelligence was involved or not.

  I don’t think any of them are not talking about natural cause. So we are in agreement 👍 I’m talking about the many scientists and biologists who wonder if intelligence was involved or was it all purely chance.

  You talk as if these ones are denying science all together, not at all. Just wondering if intelligence was involved or not that’s all
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  It's official: JW celeb Nicolas King publicly out

  by neat blue dog in

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  after years of speculation, jw movie star & chorus member nicolas king, who ironically starred as the bad guy espousing homosexuality in a jw movie, has coupled up with his performing partner and also performed in a church for pride month.. .

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  This is why they try to keep the singers anonymous. So that if or when they come out as gay or something they hope nobody will notice.

  can’t do that with videos.

  It always used to be that if someone appeared in a prominent picture in the publications and then left the truth they would be removed and the picture will be changed

  they can’t do that with old videos but it will be interesting to see if they delete the videos with ex Brother king in them. The film and all the music videos he was a part of where you could see him signing.

  TOMO3 is interesting because they are slowly removing a lot of his videos but it’s too much to delete them all, he has loads o videos in the new live forever book, it would be a lot of work to replace all of those and people will soon notice and start questioning
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Many more young scientists are now coming out and saying the more we discover about DNA and how amazing biology is, this is far more intelligent design than anything humans can currently do.

  The old school group are saying the more we discover the more it proves chance as the origin.

  The big question is could something that happened by chance be replicated in a controlled environment?

  Could scientists make a new organic life and a new DNA from scratch? Not yet they can’t replicate what we are told happened by chance. This points towards a greater intelligence than humans currently have.
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  peacefulpetean hour ago

  If I may be so bold as to say, ExBethelite, you might dislike the taste of the boxed wine at the JW table but you are still hooked

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  I don’t have to drink it though, I can still go to the party and choose to drink something I like😁
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Cofty “ What biologists deny common ancestry - ones that aren't fundamentalist xtians that is?

  There are not two conflicting sides in the scientific question of the common ancestry of all living things,”

  The two groups that can’t agree are those that think common ancestry proves intelligence and those that think it proves chance?

  How can you not see this?

  The more scientific discoveries there are some say this is proof of intelligence and some old school say see this is proof of chance
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  SB what are you talking about those subjects never rely on bullshit baffles brain’s techniques. They can be logical, clear and concise and not rely on people having faith to believe they are true.

  If something is true it doesn’t need over complex convoluted points that can be argued against.

  chemistry, calculus and any other deep subjects can be explained in clear concise ways that won’t have two groups of scientists having different views.

  A surprising number of scientists who discover just how amazing chemistry, biology etc are become convinced that there must have been design not chance. But still many scientists discovering the same things conclude it was chance
  
  
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  cofty3 minutes ago

  Are you agnostic about whether or not the earth is flat? If not why not

  
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  Not at all. My reasons for believing the earth is a globe are many. One of them being latitude and longitude would not work on flat earth. I know gps positioning does work in the Southern Hemisphere. The distance between Cape Horn and the cape of good hope is about 6000 nautical miles and takes about 59 days to sail if you cover just over 100 miles a day.

  I hope you are not going to keep asking me “have you read one book on flat earth, just one” because I really don’t want to waste my time.

  goodbye Cofty I haven’t got any more time for you and your funny beliefs
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Cofty “You are tying yourself in knots to avoid admitting your deception.”

  How could my beliefs be deception when I have said time and time again that I am agnostic?

  You seem to think that agnostics deny chance theory? This is simply not true. We just haven’t yet found absolute proof of chance yet, all evidence so far can also be used to point towards intelligence having been involved. Hence why I’m agnostic.

  Please don’t think I’m attacking your beliefs I certainly am not trying to force my beliefs on you and I hope you will give me the same respect
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I think it is you who are tying yourself up in knots

  I do understand it to an extent with your past beliefs

  I think you will eventually come to the realisation that you will never know the entire truth about this as I have.

  I am comfortable knowing that anyone who claims to know the truth about the origin of the universe is probably wrong

  And that what you are so sure about at present may not be as clear cut as you think now

  all the best in your journey
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “Okay tell me even one book you have studied on evolutionary biology. Even one. Doesn't have to be complicated one.”

  Cofty as I have said many times I don’t remember one of the many books I read based on one of Darwin’s chance theorists that said in the blurb “this book covers biological evolution”

  they all just say evolution

  
  

  I don’t know why you put so much emphasis on a book that has to come under specialist biological evolution. There are many good books on evolution that don’t specifically say that.

  There are so many theories now of chance as the origin. One theory even supposed that the universe created itself. I don’t know if this comes under chance or intelligently designed 🤣