ExBethelitenowPIMA

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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I never made the statement that - “it is definitely better to be wilfully ignorant” Cofty you are once again twisting things.

  Im certainly asking that question and wondering perhaps people are happier PIMI than PIMO.

  But I’m also asking the question if there is a third option to be agnostic and keep a little bit of hope that the Bible maybe be right at least partially.

  As as said before Cofty took this off topic, most PIMI’s have to admit they only have a hope of the Bibles promises. Well I have that hope as well even though my view is it may be right or it may be wrong.

  This is where I’m at right now but what I’ve learnt is never feel you can’t change your belief if there is a good reason to.

  I feel it’s dangerous to be so set in your belief system and hold on to it ignoring anything that doesn’t feed your confirmation bias
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “regardless of whether it happened by chance or by design. The question of what 'guided' it can remain open,”

  Yes that’s exactly what I feel. If you feel like this then you are be true definition agnostic.

  Many modern scientists remain open if intelligence or blind chance was involved
  
  
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I remember when news got out that London Bethel was moving and many of us started getting letters they liked to call back to the field letters

  Some older ones were dreading getting the letters

  even some widows who had given their life to Bethel and of course sacrificed having kids got the dreaded letter.

  booted out after decades

  It has been very very hard for many
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Tonus I’m agnostic so I won’t commit. Unless absolute proof of chance or intelligence is presented

  I just have a problem with someone trying to say you can’t ask those questions or that is a philosophical question not a scientific one.

  You can call it anything you want, it won’t stop me asking those questions or seeking the answers.

  By the way, the question of if intelligence was involved doesn’t necessarily mean God, that’s an assumption. Many of the new generation of scientists have views that intelligence must have been involved it could not all have just been blind chance.

  The fact that these discoveries can’t be replicated in a controlled environment does suggest it’s unlikely to have been blind chance, but an intelligence far beyond what we could imagine
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I don’t know if this has been talked about already but his latest videos always from an attic

  so is that it then he can’t afford the studio anymore
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “Yes, that's correct. Conway Morris believes (and has made his case in lectures -and a book?) that a study of evolution can lead one to the conclusion that there is an intelligence behind it. And there are many other scientists -including evolutionary biologists- who believe that god exists, and that evolution explains the diversity of life on the planet.”

  He is not the only one, many of the new breed think intelligence was involved not just blind chance

  yes we are making progress 👏😁
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  All older ones in full time service get very very good elderly care.

  Any Bethelites, special pioneers or missionaries get to be waited on hand and foot. Especially if you claim to be anointed.

  Any of the orders who don’t take the emblems are missing a trick, if they start taking them then they get lifted up a level and get the best rooms
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  We are now 23 Years past Armageddon as the GB stated

  by JohnTron7 in

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  so the end was going to come by 2000 as documented in the magazines back in the late 80's early 90's.. so how did they get the time off so badly ( over two decades and still nothing) since the gb is jehovah's earthly mouthpiece right ?

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I strongly suspect most higher ups know full well the 1914 doctrines are wrong. That the dates are wrong when Jerusalem was destroyed. There are so many other doctrines that would have to have new light once it comes out that it was all wrong.

  The overlapping nonsense bought them some time, if they didn’t think of that then it would be blatantly obvious it was all wrong.

  The only question is how long can they postpone announcing an updated understanding?

  How long before the overlappers get too old?

  Could they try the technique they often do and try to hide and change the past by deleting articles and videos that ever talked about it? Unlikely as they still push the 1914 in the newest publications.

  Must like they will have to do a U turn on pushing vaccines and wish they were neutral about them they may try to say all along we were neutral we never encouraged anyone to take them! But still you need to be fully vaccinated to go any of the schools or building projects.

  The next few years will be very interesting.

  Maybe the higher ups think they will all be too old or have died by the time the storm comes when it’s blatantly obvious they were wrong about 1914 and wrong about not staying neutral when pushing vaccines.

  But these new younger members of the GB maybe still alive when they have to cope with the fallout and release new light about their old doctrines
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I’m guessing less than 500 left

  in a few months less than 300 left

  then he will have to go get that toilet cleaning job because he can’t learn the local language
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  would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

  were you more happy pimi?

  are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

  1. 
  2. 
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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “In the same vein, I can't convince you of how strong or accurate the theory of evolution is, because I don't know enough about it. But the people who do know appear to have no doubt and can explain it, as evidenced by the endless scientific papers, and books, and easily-accessible videos on the subject from scientists (and biologists in particular). If you're only seeking the outliers, the people who make claims but don't have the science to back it up, then you're not seeking answers, you only want to ask questions.“

  This is such a good point and I can see how both sides are guilty of this. Some who believe in blind chance are set in their ways and not willing to seek answers from all the best scientists and evolution experts who make a case for intelligence being involved.

  Some just try to say you can’t ask that question, it’s not even a question of blind chance or intelligence.

  As I have said many times of all the experts in biology and evolutionary theory the same amazing points are used to point towards blind chance or intelligence far beyond human intelligence.

  I have seen both sides use the same exact points saying look at this, this proves far more intelligence this is so clever how this happened over billions of years. Others simply say yes this is so amazing how this happened over billions of years but it was just blind chance.

  It is very wrong to get set in your ways and not even open to the possibility that there is more to the story than you presently think.