“ He’s now living under a bridge addicted to Meth”
So he would definitely be more happy staying PIMI or at least PIMA
ExBethelitenowPIMA
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
Yes I thought we were done when you brought up flat earth and I asked you please don’t keep telling me to read a flat earth book , just one!
I did not lie it was you who brought this off topic the post you claimed that I did here is absolutely on topic-
“The person who started the thread took it in this direction here...
That was on page two”
This is exactly on topic, someone who is so sure they have found the truth, like you claim Cofty, what if it could be shown to you that what you think is the truth may not be? I suspect you think you would be happier not looking at this argument and if you did see it then you may wish you hadn’t?
This is why it’s such an interesting topic
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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Getting back to the TV show Silo that we talked about earlier I have just seen upto episode 10.
Long story short what they came to realise was not true because they had another belief system presented- also turned out also not to be the truth.
They were told they would die outside but they were presented a belief system where it was actually green and lush, they believed this but actually there is a lot more to it.
This is a bit like someone believes what we have been told about the Bible then are presented with Darwin’s first theory that it was a Big Bang purely by chance and there is no intelligence involved at all.
But maybe there is a lot more to it than that. Just like Silo some who used to believe the Bibles promises went totally over to blind chance Big Bang no intelligence involved at all.
what if there was intelligence involved and what if the Bible does have a lot of meaning for us but we just don’t understand it properly?
But I’m open to the possibilities that people in Cofty’s camp maybe right that there was no intelligence involved and it’s all just blind chance. Even if this is the case I think to live your life with a little bit of hope in the Bibles promises can be helpful especially when someone is going through a very very hard time to tell them what the Bible promises.
This is not disingenuous to just tell them this is what the Bible promises and they may find comfort in this hope. I can still find comfort in the hope even though my view is it may be right or it maybe wrong.
I think that a lot more of the 8 million JWs are like me, than most think. They go along with things because they like the congregation but at the end of the day they think to themselves it may be true or it may not be.
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Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom
by XBEHERE ini can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.
this had to come down from the top.
maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
Many more are becoming PZMI then slowly drifting to PZMO
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
So back on topic I’m wondering could you actually have all the advantages of PIMI by talking about the hope of the Bibles promises coming true, and have the advantages of PIMO by not wasting your life too much by sitting on the fence and being PIMA like me?
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
I never made the statement that - “it is definitely better to be wilfully ignorant” Cofty you are once again twisting things.
Im certainly asking that question and wondering perhaps people are happier PIMI than PIMO.
But I’m also asking the question if there is a third option to be agnostic and keep a little bit of hope that the Bible maybe be right at least partially.
As as said before Cofty took this off topic, most PIMI’s have to admit they only have a hope of the Bibles promises. Well I have that hope as well even though my view is it may be right or it may be wrong.
This is where I’m at right now but what I’ve learnt is never feel you can’t change your belief if there is a good reason to.
I feel it’s dangerous to be so set in your belief system and hold on to it ignoring anything that doesn’t feed your confirmation bias
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
“regardless of whether it happened by chance or by design. The question of what 'guided' it can remain open,”
Yes that’s exactly what I feel. If you feel like this then you are be true definition agnostic.
Many modern scientists remain open if intelligence or blind chance was involved
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
I remember when news got out that London Bethel was moving and many of us started getting letters they liked to call back to the field letters
Some older ones were dreading getting the letters
even some widows who had given their life to Bethel and of course sacrificed having kids got the dreaded letter.
booted out after decades
It has been very very hard for many
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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Tonus I’m agnostic so I won’t commit. Unless absolute proof of chance or intelligence is presented
I just have a problem with someone trying to say you can’t ask those questions or that is a philosophical question not a scientific one.
You can call it anything you want, it won’t stop me asking those questions or seeking the answers.
By the way, the question of if intelligence was involved doesn’t necessarily mean God, that’s an assumption. Many of the new generation of scientists have views that intelligence must have been involved it could not all have just been blind chance.
The fact that these discoveries can’t be replicated in a controlled environment does suggest it’s unlikely to have been blind chance, but an intelligence far beyond what we could imagine
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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ExBethelitenowPIMA
I don’t know if this has been talked about already but his latest videos always from an attic
so is that it then he can’t afford the studio anymore