Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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If you were to design a new religion?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Yes of course especially if you think the Bible is an interesting book that has at least some value

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If you were to design a new religion?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

The changes at the AGM are encouraging the new JWlite approach.

Even if you stop everything and wait to see if JWs were right then you could jump that side of the fence last min.

but my entire point is make sure you get more out of being in the cong than what you put into it

The new JW lite secret sect inside the JW sect is the best way to go.

You have the advantages of being in and not the disadvantages.

also you have you advantages of being out without the disadvantages

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If you were to design a new religion?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

JW lite option, yes I love the sound of that 😁

that is me from now on. And yes I will ignore the shunning and all the other things I don’t agree with. What can they do? There is no more disfellowshipping now, if you say to have the JD would make you feel suicidal then it won’t happen.

Maybe a lot more previous hardline JWs will come over to this new JW lite option.

You asked what is the advantage well the answer is all the good association. And the protection being inside the congregation if something bad were to happen to you then you get well looked after.

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If you were to design a new religion?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

My religion is Agnosticism inside the JW congregation.

Im open to the possibility of evolution and atheism but keep a hope that the Bibles promises may come true.

Hope for the best prepare for the worst

This way no regrets that you wasted your life believing something that wasn’t true as so many JWs go through in later life.

But I’m open to the possibility that God is real and he wrote the Bible, maybe some version of the Bibles promises will come true. Having this hope is comforting

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If you were to design a new religion?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

If you feel like it give comments occasionally and even be on the school and give talks every now and then but this is not a requirement.

Most important part of this new secret sect inside the JW organisation is not to listen to the GB anymore now they have admitted they are not inspired and they are not infallible.

Do not follow the direction they give. Do not shun anyone ignore what they say. Do not tell kids to avoid further education if they want to go for it.

Do not listen to what they say instead look at what they do, invest in real estate and stack gold and silver.

plan for retirement, do not live as if their version of Armageddon is right around the corner.

But at the same time don’t lose your hope that the Bibles promises may come true and if the JWs are right then this new light says you could jump that side of the fence last minute.

Yes they have actually encouraged what I’m saying here without actually knowing how stupid they are sounding at this years AGM

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If you were to design a new religion?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

What the JW sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what I thought could be a good religion based on the Bible.

No more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.

I would like to design a new sect inside the JWs. It has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.

This new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the Bible.

Going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes. Very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park. But don’t actually do anymore ministry.

Then go to all the coffee breaks and gatherings

This new secret sect inside the JW congregation will be easy and you can get more out of it than you put into it.

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List of main points from 2023 AGM

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Yes I remember the change when the Watchtower changed the 1914 doctrine last year, they actually said around 1914. Will they slowly bring it forward as we get further away from 1914?

but 1914 is pivotal to so much. If they actually said about 1914

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Could anyone post a link for the AGM again?

Hey can anyone please help me, I saw it somewhere but now can’t find it

thanks

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Disfellowshipped ones who die before the "last minute repentance"

by jonahstourguide in

hi all.. i've posted this in humour given that most of jw doctrine changes and flip flops are just so.. as stated, if there is now to be a 'last minute redemption'.what happens to the aforementioned folk?.

cannot wait for a explane-ation.

am i the only one giggling at this??

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Could anyone post a link for the leaked AGM again?

I saw it somewhere but now can’t find it

thanks

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Real reasons behind this change?

by Gorb in

jw
friends

just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Could anyone post a link for the AGM again?

I saw it somewhere but now can’t find it

thanks

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List of main points from 2023 AGM

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

It does feel like an enormous sea change at this AGM 2023. The two new members of the GB and losing Fat Tony.

It feels like the GB are getting us ready for some big changes. Jeff Winder said the GB are not inspired and not infallible. He said when they get things wrong there is no need to apologise.

My guess is a big change about 1914. It is inevitable at some stage as we get further away from 1914 they have to admit they were wrong, and they may be putting it off but at some point they will have to admit again they were wrong.

I also guess a big change about disfellowshipping and shunning. Especially now they are losing charitable status in some places and if they drop that then they can get money off tax and keep getting handouts from governments.

What about all those who have been kicked out and shunned for voicing their opinions about the GB not being inspired and being wrong about things? Jeff is now saying these ones were right.

I know one brother who went through a really hard time for voicing his opinions about the direction to keep taking these vaccines to remain fully vaccinated. He was marked for saying the GB were not inspired and that the direction was wrong.

Now Jeff Winder is saying the same thing. He said the GB have been wrong about some doctrinal matters and organisational direction. Yes Jeff you were wrong to give direction to keep taking these shots. But until you do a U turn on the official direction then rank and file are going to keep taking them to remain fully vaccinated.

All those who were kicked out for saying what Jeff just said should have a big sincere apology!

I know one old couple who really don’t not want to keep taking these boosters because they know it’s making them more and more unwell. But until the GB do a U turn on the direction then the rank and file have been told to follow direction even if they disagree with it.