Yes they keep close on apostate stuff, it’s the way they can tell if when they make mistakes. They could never know that from other PIMIs in Bethel.
This is why AGM 2023 they had to say we make mistakes but r not sorry
so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
Yes they keep close on apostate stuff, it’s the way they can tell if when they make mistakes. They could never know that from other PIMIs in Bethel.
This is why AGM 2023 they had to say we make mistakes but r not sorry
so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
w72 10/1 p. 607 - "they (jw's) know that soon now all who are not true worshipers of jehovah (jw's) will be destroyed.".
how quickly half a century passes by!
2 peter 3:8 - "...one day is with jehovah jw.borg as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
No one could repent once the Ark door was closed and it started raining as that would not be a display of faith in God but only wanting to save their own skin.”
This is a very good point. The new light means you can wait and see if Noah was right then say ok it looks like the world is actually going to flood now like Noah said, OK I will get on the ark after all, better to wait and see for sure first.
This is surely the wise thing to do now before anyone gets baptised. Wait and see if things play out the way JWs say it will. Then you can always get on the ark if it’s looking like the world will flood. But don’t waste you time or energy until then.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
I’m just done watching the video where he thinks he talked to God, is he really that stupid when he actually asks the question was it just the shrooms or was it really me talking to God🤣
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Can you post them on here? Also a short summary?
what’s the short story on the documents?
library.
books & brochures.
enjoy life forever!—an interactive bible course.
So the part 2 has been released, I’ve just the part admitting the GB are not inspired and not infallible!
Then he said when we make a mistake either with direction or doctrine an apology is not needed!
Then count how many times the phrases “we can’t be dogmatic” and then “we don’t know”!
I still don’t understand why he says “we know some of you were thinking I hope my loved ones die before Armageddon” accusing people of being stupid for believing the old doctrine!!!!
so what is the new doctrine? These unbelievers who don’t die before Armageddon will Jehovah kill them or not if they are good people who didn’t get baptised?
Then the really shocking part that disfellowshipped ones can come back last minute.
this changes everything from the point of view of Pascals Wager. It used to be it was worth it making the wager that God exists. But this new light means you don’t have to make that wager until the great tribulation starts.
it’s just like betting on a horse race but you can wait until the race is over then make your bet once you know for sure.
This is such a massive change and now young people don’t need to get baptised just stay JWLITE,
i just saw on a video that there has been a change about further education.
here is a screenshot of a letter that went to all elders.
i am an elder but i don’t remember this one, perhaps it is only for some areas?.
This was the video the claim was made about the letter saying U turn on the direction
https://youtu.be/0v5i-I4fHFc?feature=shared
He said in his next video he would address the claims it was all lies, he still says it is no lies and the letter is genuine
but his next video doesn’t address the issue at all
fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.
many of the comments are hilarious.. .
a beard prediction for 2024:.
I guess the GB didn’t think it would be such a big thing and only those already with beards would then be able to reach out as they are so desperate for brothers.
But the way things are going many more brothers have stopped shaving than the GB thought.
it reminds me of the Northern Ireland troubles in the 1970s, where the English undercover wanted to blend in and grew beards. After a while they realised the IRA all started shaving and it was easy to tell undercover agents as they all had beards
someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.
so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.
after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.
An example is the film The Book Of Eli. The bad guy wants to get a Bible in post apocalyptic times because it can be played like a musical instrument to control people. History proves this to be true.
Parts of the Bible can be played in many different ways, just look at all the ways organised religions play these verses especially the JWs
i have worked at chelmsford .
everybody seems so happy, but i couldn’t help wondering why all these volunteers give up their time and money, working for free for the future bethelites to live in such luxury .
all all the volunteers working there now will be kicked out on the street next year, with the lucky few laughing at the poor suckers who irked for free making this new bethel so amazing .
Just heard that those in Bethel had at least a weeks extra notice on the beard new light.
Many Bethelites had stopped shaving at least a week before the new light was announced to the world. Now some of these bethelites have proper beards already.
Oh how times have changed, could you ever imagine going to Bethel and seeing many of the brothers with beards?
Id say this year 2023 has marked a very significant shift in the organisation with no more reports and the fact that you don’t have to take Pascal’s wager you can now wager the JWs have it wrong and change your bet after horse race has finished and see who won ✅