Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

BoogerMan15 hours ago

@ ExBethelite - you are merely repeating your assertion that there is no contradiction with the two statements in the WT, but haven't answered the question:

Do you believe (based on WT dogma) that during the millenium people will be practicing evil deeds? (the act of doing something regularly or repeatedly)

A simple 'yes' or 'no' will suffice

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Im agnostic so can’t answer yes or no. Agnostic means you can’t ever know for sure if it’s intelligent design or chance at the very start of everything.

I can’t answer yes or no to if I believe in God or the Bible.

Im sitting on the fence basically

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Zoom Ministry

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

i saw this post on ex-jw reddit so i thought i'd bring here.

zoom service, what are your observations/opinions of it?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Zoom has been great at getting to know others in far flung congregation’s

I think the org wishes they hadn’t opened that can of worms

some folks are invited to join other groups someone who knows someone

I have joined zoom ministry groups of a friend of a friend it’s like a big party

nobody actually writes letters that is just a front for chatting to people all over the world

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New convention video: Do you see what I see?

by neat blue dog in

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ExBethelitenowPIMA

The guy walking on the beach had a beard but I don’t think anyone would notice

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

There is no contradiction in JW doctrine here

I have said many times these cheap shots do no favours to the apostate community

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses maintain a database of 'Sudden Deaths' within Bethel Families around the world?

by was a new boy in

99% were vaccinated.. .

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studionewsreports/docid-702021091_1_video.

correction, there is no such thing as a bethel family, bethel hotel, yes, there always been bethelites coming and going.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

We should all sarcastically say to all JWs we ever meet “Jehovah was so good giving clear direction to be fully vaccinated. Don’t listen to all these conspiracy theories from Satan that the vaccine is not safe and effective. Jehovah knows it is safe and effective and don’t listen to Satan’s world saying tens of millions of people are dying from blood clots and other vaccine related deaths. That just can’t be true because the direction from Jehovah is still to keep taking these vaccines”

until the direction changes all JWs have been taught to follow direction and keep taking these boosters

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

@ ExBethelite & DJW - Just to be clear, are you saying that during the millenium some people will practice evil deeds, (the act of doing something regularly or repeatedly) or they won't?

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Im agnostic so I don’t know.

But I’m saying there is no contradiction in JW doctrine. They are saying those that practice vile things in the old world will not be tolerated in the new world. They have a choice so if they choose to practice vile things then they will be destroyed. Simple as that.

how far they get practicing vile things before they get destroyed?

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Predict JW life in future

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I wonder how many are physically in but mentally at least doubting the GB or like me full blown thinking the GB are wrong about lots of things?

but like me they enjoy being physically in and can see how being physically in has many advantages and it’s very pleasant to see how people clean up their lives and avoid all kinds of problems by being physically in

I suspect there will be many more people like me who are physically staying in for the advantages but mentally not getting too invested because they are doubting the GB

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Predict JW life in future

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

A sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

Some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.

how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?

why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

We all know that scripture can be twisted and interpreted in many different ways

its very easy to critique anyones interpretation of the 1000 years talked about in the Bible but what you you think is the correct interpretation? That’s the hard part.

Im PIMA so I will remain physically in and mentally agnostic

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Why are JW's THIS blind?

by BoogerMan in

i had a conversation about this 22 carat gold contradiction with a couple of zealous jw's a couple of days ago.. even their personal "explanations" contradicted each other as they tried justify their cognitive dissonance!.

an absolute delight to witness such absurdity.. "after all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.

the unrighteous must have practiced these vile things [john 5:29] before their death.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

ExBethelite, what scriptural grounds do they have for these assertions, the first assertion is indeed supported by Christian writings, the second assertion not by the canonical biblical text, since the idea of a 1000 year ‘in-between’ purgatory-style earth or reincarnation is not in the Bible.
Thus if you ask to justify, it does indeed become contradictory to the biblical texts. Yes, you can make excuses for it, but you can’t assert biblical sourcing, redemption through faith is the core of Christianity and a resurrection to incorruptible state is asserted by Paul (1 Cor 15) and various other verses.
The JWs assert a 1000 year temporary reincarnation based on misinterpretation of a single scripture in Revelation and off course Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach and a few other Judaic and early Christian apocrypha and commentaries which Russell and Rutherford were quite fond of plagiarizing for their interpretation.

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YES THAT ALL MAKES SENSE.
IM JUST SAYING ITS NOT A CONTRADICTION THAT VILE THINGS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
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