Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I’m guessing less than 500 left

in a few months less than 300 left

then he will have to go get that toilet cleaning job because he can’t learn the local language

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

“In the same vein, I can't convince you of how strong or accurate the theory of evolution is, because I don't know enough about it. But the people who do know appear to have no doubt and can explain it, as evidenced by the endless scientific papers, and books, and easily-accessible videos on the subject from scientists (and biologists in particular). If you're only seeking the outliers, the people who make claims but don't have the science to back it up, then you're not seeking answers, you only want to ask questions.“

This is such a good point and I can see how both sides are guilty of this. Some who believe in blind chance are set in their ways and not willing to seek answers from all the best scientists and evolution experts who make a case for intelligence being involved.

Some just try to say you can’t ask that question, it’s not even a question of blind chance or intelligence.

As I have said many times of all the experts in biology and evolutionary theory the same amazing points are used to point towards blind chance or intelligence far beyond human intelligence.

I have seen both sides use the same exact points saying look at this, this proves far more intelligence this is so clever how this happened over billions of years. Others simply say yes this is so amazing how this happened over billions of years but it was just blind chance.

It is very wrong to get set in your ways and not even open to the possibility that there is more to the story than you presently think.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Again you want to try to make this about something else. You would make a good politician. Trying to force a narrative down your one track.

The truth is there is a lot more to it than you think.

All the proof you think for chance theory could also be used as proof for intelligence.

It’s dangerous to be so dog minded that you will not ever consider an apposing theory

Im on another train track entirely and I want to keep critical thinking skills.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

“Why are you STILL proposing a false dichotomy between intelligence and 'chance' despite my explaining this countless times.“

Cofty no matter how many times you try to force me or anyone into your narrow view it will never work.

It is not a false dichotomy as you try to force it to be, this is your big problem.

You think I’m challenging or denying things that I am not. I’m just questioning if intelligence was involved or was it all blind chance.

I can see this makes you uncomfortable so if you don’t want to go there then please don’t worry we are all free to ask any questions we want.

The problems come when someone tries to say you can’t ask those questions it’s a false dichotomy. I’m sorry cofty but we can ask those questions we won’t be forced onto your train track, we are free to question anything

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

My view is agnostic that we will never know the full truth if intelligence was involved or was it all blind chance.

But please don’t mistake this view as denial of scientific discoveries or denial of well established facts.

You are not denying the good science to question if intelligence was involved or if it was all blind chance to begin with.

After all we have been through with the pandemic we should all question the scientists who tell us we have to swallow what they tell us without question

There are two kinds of scientists those who seek the truth and those who seek to control the truth.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

“Please tell me about all these biologists who conclude that all life descended from a common ancestor over millions of years who reject natural processes as a cause. I'm NOT talking about the origin of life or the origin of the universe.”

This is the problem Cofty. We are talking about different things. 😁 I am talking about if intelligence was involved or not.

I don’t think any of them are not talking about natural cause. So we are in agreement 👍 I’m talking about the many scientists and biologists who wonder if intelligence was involved or was it all purely chance.

You talk as if these ones are denying science all together, not at all. Just wondering if intelligence was involved or not that’s all

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It's official: JW celeb Nicolas King publicly out

by neat blue dog in

after years of speculation, jw movie star & chorus member nicolas king, who ironically starred as the bad guy espousing homosexuality in a jw movie, has coupled up with his performing partner and also performed in a church for pride month.. .

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ExBethelitenowPIMA

This is why they try to keep the singers anonymous. So that if or when they come out as gay or something they hope nobody will notice.

can’t do that with videos.

It always used to be that if someone appeared in a prominent picture in the publications and then left the truth they would be removed and the picture will be changed

they can’t do that with old videos but it will be interesting to see if they delete the videos with ex Brother king in them. The film and all the music videos he was a part of where you could see him signing.

TOMO3 is interesting because they are slowly removing a lot of his videos but it’s too much to delete them all, he has loads o videos in the new live forever book, it would be a lot of work to replace all of those and people will soon notice and start questioning

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Many more young scientists are now coming out and saying the more we discover about DNA and how amazing biology is, this is far more intelligent design than anything humans can currently do.

The old school group are saying the more we discover the more it proves chance as the origin.

The big question is could something that happened by chance be replicated in a controlled environment?

Could scientists make a new organic life and a new DNA from scratch? Not yet they can’t replicate what we are told happened by chance. This points towards a greater intelligence than humans currently have.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

peacefulpetean hour ago

If I may be so bold as to say, ExBethelite, you might dislike the taste of the boxed wine at the JW table but you are still hooked

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I don’t have to drink it though, I can still go to the party and choose to drink something I like😁

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Cofty “ What biologists deny common ancestry - ones that aren't fundamentalist xtians that is?

There are not two conflicting sides in the scientific question of the common ancestry of all living things,”

The two groups that can’t agree are those that think common ancestry proves intelligence and those that think it proves chance?

How can you not see this?

The more scientific discoveries there are some say this is proof of intelligence and some old school say see this is proof of chance