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  Disfellowshipped ones who die before the "last minute repentance"

  by jonahstourguide in

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  hi all.. i've posted this in humour given that most of jw doctrine changes and flip flops are just so.. as stated, if there is now to be a 'last minute redemption'.what happens to the aforementioned folk?.

  cannot wait for a explane-ation.

  am i the only one giggling at this??

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  Could anyone post a link for the leaked AGM again?

  I saw it somewhere but now can’t find it

  thanks
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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

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  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Could anyone post a link for the AGM again?

  I saw it somewhere but now can’t find it

  thanks
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  List of main points from 2023 AGM

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

  the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

  they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

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  It does feel like an enormous sea change at this AGM 2023. The two new members of the GB and losing Fat Tony.

  It feels like the GB are getting us ready for some big changes. Jeff Winder said the GB are not inspired and not infallible. He said when they get things wrong there is no need to apologise.

  My guess is a big change about 1914. It is inevitable at some stage as we get further away from 1914 they have to admit they were wrong, and they may be putting it off but at some point they will have to admit again they were wrong.

  I also guess a big change about disfellowshipping and shunning. Especially now they are losing charitable status in some places and if they drop that then they can get money off tax and keep getting handouts from governments.

  What about all those who have been kicked out and shunned for voicing their opinions about the GB not being inspired and being wrong about things? Jeff is now saying these ones were right.

  I know one brother who went through a really hard time for voicing his opinions about the direction to keep taking these vaccines to remain fully vaccinated. He was marked for saying the GB were not inspired and that the direction was wrong.

  Now Jeff Winder is saying the same thing. He said the GB have been wrong about some doctrinal matters and organisational direction. Yes Jeff you were wrong to give direction to keep taking these shots. But until you do a U turn on the official direction then rank and file are going to keep taking them to remain fully vaccinated.

  All those who were kicked out for saying what Jeff just said should have a big sincere apology!

  
  

  
  

  I know one old couple who really don’t not want to keep taking these boosters because they know it’s making them more and more unwell. But until the GB do a U turn on the direction then the rank and file have been told to follow direction even if they disagree with it.
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  List of main points from 2023 AGM

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

  the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

  they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

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  What Jeff Jackson said in his talk at the AGM made me feel physically sick. Why did he not apologise instead of trying to make people feel bad for believing what they told us to believe.

  I remember countless times the GB have said something like they are blaming the Jdubs for believing something that the GB had previously told them to believe and now putting the blame on them for believing it.

  Tony Morris used to do this a lot and he did it with those believing the 1975 endtimes teaching. It’s your fault for believing it and sarcastically and arrogantly having the high horse we are better than you see the way I’m talking to you now.

  Jeff Jackson did this saying “we know you were thinking like this” in a weasel whinny sarcastic voice.

  “some of you were thinking I hope my unbelieving relative dies before Armageddon so they will be in paradise with me”

  he speaks as if we were all so stupid to believe this, when it’s the GB that were stupid for telling people to believe this all these years. You are the stupid one Jeff Jackson so why are you coming across so superior and arrogant when you should be apologetic and you should commend those smart ones who disagreed with the GB.
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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  What Jeff Jackson said in his talk at the AGM made me feel physically sick.

  I remember countless times the GB have said something like they are blaming the Jdubs for believing something that the GB had previously told them to believe and now putting the blame on them for believing it.

  Tony Morris used to do this a lot and he did it with those believing the 1975 endtimes teaching. It’s your fault for believing it and sarcastically and arrogantly having the high horse we are better than you see the way I’m talking to you now.

  Jeff Jackson did this saying “we know you were thinking like this” in a weasel whinny sarcastic voice.

  “some of you were thinking I hope my unbelieving relative dies before Armageddon so they will be in paradise with me”

  he speaks as if we were all so stupid to believe this, when it’s the GB that were stupid for telling people to believe this all these years. You are the stupid one Jeff Jackson so why are you coming across so superior and arrogant when you should be apologetic and you should commend those smart ones who disagreed with the GB.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  let's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?

  let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?

  will he drop back down below 400?

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  401
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  Hailstones (2)

  by NotFormer in

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  with the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.

  can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Jeff Winder new GB member really stirred things up in opening talk first of all once again claiming the GB were Gods channel on Earth. Then he goes on to say the GB are not inspired or infallible. So which is it Jeff? Gods channel but not inspired by God?????

  He says the words that “the GB can be wrong with doctrinal matters or organisational direction” Is this the vaccine direction issue?

  I always had a problem with them claiming to be Gods channel on Earth but getting so many things wrong. I honestly did not believe they were who they claim to be.

  but now this huge change they are claiming they are not actually inspired or infallible?

  Last leaked videos of the AGM and other early leaks have been edited by the time it’s released on JWbroadcast.

  I remember some stupid things brother Heard used to say got edited by the time it was up for all to see.

  I do wonder if the service desk is indeed monitoring all the apostate chatter on here and elsewhere then having meetings about things they never thought of before……..

  we are helping them do their job, chopping and changing where the can.

  it will be interesting comparing the leaked full AGM to what gets released on Broadcast to the 8 million JDubs.

  I hope some of the good YouTubers do a comparison and then analyse which bits get edited and why
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  List of main points from 2023 AGM

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

  the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

  they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

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  Easypromt could you tell us what serious wrongdoing were they trying to cover up that you wanted to expose?

  Last leaked videos of the AGM and other early leaks have been edited by the time it’s released on JWbroadcast.

  I remember some stupid things brother Heard used to say got edited by the time it was up for all to see.

  I do wonder if the service desk is indeed monitoring all the apostate chatter on here and elsewhere then having meetings about things they never thought of before……..

  we are helping them do their job, chopping and changing where the can.

  it will be interesting comparing the leaked full AGM to what gets released on Broadcast to the 8 million JDubs.

  I hope some of the good YouTubers do a comparison and then analyse which bits get edited and why
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Last leaked videos of the AGM and other early leaks have been edited by the time it’s released on JWbroadcast.

  I remember some stupid things brother Heard used to say got edited by the time it was up for all to see.

  I do wonder if the service desk is indeed monitoring all the apostate chatter on here and elsewhere then having meetings about things they never thought of before……..

  we are helping them do their job, chopping and changing where the can.

  it will be interesting comparing the leaked full AGM to what gets released on Broadcast to the 8 million JDubs.

  I hope some of the good YouTubers do a comparison and then analyse which bits get edited and why🤣
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  List of main points from 2023 AGM

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.

  the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.

  they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.

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  1. Doctrinal changes how new light comes about. The GB raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.

  2. The GB are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes. They are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong. Rank and file are to just go along with new light no matter how ridiculous it was to go along with the old light for such a long time.

  3. It used to be that if you were disfellowshipped and died before Armageddon you would be resurrected unless you were really really bad. There will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteousness.

  but what if you didn’t die just before the end? This wouldn’t make sense and be unfair.

  now they are saying pretty much everyone will make it through and then during the 1000 year reign everyone can decide if they want to live in paradise.

  4. No more reporting ministry only that you participated in some form. This will mean pioneers will be left on their own a lot as they still have to.