Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

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even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

ExBethelitenowPIMA

stan livedeath4 days ago

problem for me is i'm not agnostic--i'm atheist. To me its a case of " in the beginning man made god"

What are the advantages of being atheist? I suppose if you genuinely believe the origin of everything was just chance then everything has no purpose it’s all meaningless. You don’t have to feel guilty about hurting others or doing anything wrong according to the Bible. Everyone just does eventually and that’s all there is to it, no hope for the future at all.

Maybe this is all true but I don’t see any advantage to believing in possibilities of intelligent design behind it all.

To keep the possibility there that there is something more to it than just change is more advantageous to me.

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Investment departments in Bethel

by Mikejw in

i was a bethelite in london for many years then got reassigned to the field and then went on brd from the start of chelmsford right upto covid.. during my years at the branch i was sometimes asked to be on a team who went to homes donated to the branch when some older one died.. this happenes an awful lot, everything is left to the branch in the will.

the unbelieving family is furious they didn’t get left anything and sometimes they tried to get their elderly relatives possessions and there was a legal battle .

but in the end a team of us would go and empty the property and another team would clean it up and put it on the market to sell it for the worldwide work.. all the possessions were sorted into trash or possibly valuable .

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Yes there seems to be an attitude that the young bethelites work hard and do things by the book and the older ones can sit back and different rules apply.

they all had investments and read Financial Times.

Peter Bullock was the go to guy about investment. Many were buying gold and silver from ‘him’ I say him but I mean donated bullion in the vault when some older Jw died.

I myself got taken along with all the talk that silver bullion was undervalued and now is the time to buy. I went to the vault to ask what silver was available and how much.

He had a couple of monster boxes (500) of US silver eagles that someone had left in their Will. Brothers were buying tubes of 20 coins for about $20 each Troy ounce. The talk around morning worship tables was that silver would double in price

This was after 2008 GFC. Then I remember 2011 price of silver went over $50 and loads of brothers went back to Peter to sell for double the price. He went and sold loads of gold and silver to the Jewish family who incidentally were the ones who bought all of London Watchtower buildings.

I asked Peter was it his decision to sell loads of the gold and silver in 2011, he said he makes suggestions and then the top brass get back to him.

Many brothers sold gold for $2000oz and Silver for $50oz on Peters suggestion

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Investment departments in Bethel

by Mikejw in

i was a bethelite in london for many years then got reassigned to the field and then went on brd from the start of chelmsford right upto covid.. during my years at the branch i was sometimes asked to be on a team who went to homes donated to the branch when some older one died.. this happenes an awful lot, everything is left to the branch in the will.

the unbelieving family is furious they didn’t get left anything and sometimes they tried to get their elderly relatives possessions and there was a legal battle .

but in the end a team of us would go and empty the property and another team would clean it up and put it on the market to sell it for the worldwide work.. all the possessions were sorted into trash or possibly valuable .

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Anyone here who served in London the Ridgeway Bethel last couple of decades?

I wonder how many have left the Borg since serving there and if they would ever come on this site?

I noticed before about how Peter Bullock was in charge of the vault full of gold and silver. I also knew Peter and I was actually in the vault once it’s crazy how much donated loot was held there.

I would love to hear from any other ex London bethelites who may have know about the vault.

I also remember going to change GBpounds into USD before a trip to the states. They ran out of dollars at the currency exchange desk and had to send someone to the vault to get some more. The process was so complex.

the procedure to go in the vault needed about five witnesses and the security brothers would all be informed so the cameras would start recording and everyone knew the cameras would be recording every movement.

There was fine art there, lots of antiques and valuable stuff that had been donated when someone died they left everything in the will.

loads of jewellery and even gold and silver bullion and coins.

I notice once again the GB are pushing to get everyone to leave everything to them when they die.

The poor unbelieving family who get robbed of their inheritance will just hate the GB even more than before

London Bethels

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i see a thread on here for ex bethelites in ny and wanted to start one for ex london bethelites.. anyone here who served in london the ridgeway bethel last couple of decades?.

i wonder how many have left the borg since serving there and if they would ever come on this site?.

i noticed before about how peter bullock was in charge of the vault full of gold and silver.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I see a thread on here for ex Bethelites in NY and wanted to start one for ex London Bethelites.

Anyone here who served in London the Ridgeway Bethel last couple of decades?

I wonder how many have left the Borg since serving there and if they would ever come on this site?

I noticed before about how Peter Bullock was in charge of the vault full of gold and silver. I also knew Peter and I was actually in the vault once it’s crazy how much donated loot was held there

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5158725317296128/investment-departments-bethel

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

jw
friends

even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

ExBethelitenowPIMA

If you are going to adopt a lifestyle consistent with the possible existence of God, but keep the possibility there that there is no God, then JWLITE is a good option.

The reasoning behind this stance lies in the potential outcomes: if God does not exist, the individual incurs no losses at all really. It wasn’t a waste of time being physically in

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A Coin With a Remarkable History

by cofty in

over the years i have shared a few examples of objects i have found while metal detecting near my home in northumberland in ne england.

i live in a rural estate that was the site of a medieval village with a manor house and defensive tower.

many of the things i find illustrate the amazing history of the location.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

That is such a good hobby Cofty. I love the history of silver as money.

In most languages there is only one word for silver and money, English is one of the few that there are two words. In the original Bibles languages everytime it’s says money it’s the same as saying silver.

I have a few genuine pieces of 8 from a ship wreck about the same time as your silver coins Cofty.

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My conclusion on the matter

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

My conclusion is that having a spiritual hope of some kind is like a placebo that may not be a placebo or maybe it is, either way it’s helping you.

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Convention Blast

by Zilgee in

jw convention blast in kerala india.

one died.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Things are really heating up are the world

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My conclusion on the matter

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I think there may even be the majority of those still in are having the attitude that it may be true but may not be.

They are staying in for the association.

I remember volunteering for BRD in Chelmsford and there is something very special about the JW brotherhood

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My conclusion on the matter

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Just met up with an old friend whose family grew up with mine.

I remember when the first Harry Potter came out their family loved it and all the books. In our congregation it was sort of frowned upon.

My old friend sort of said yes well it worth keeping these things quiet if it stumbles others. They said it so great being part of the congregation and the worldwide brotherhood even if it’s not true it’s worth it being a part of it all.

I remember having a good talk all those decades ago and now I think about it, I was kind of more PIMI than PIMO back then but this entire family was more PIMO then PIMI.

Only now do I realise and it really clicked with me. Now we talk about it openly that we just don’t know if the Bible is true and if it is are JWs nearest to the truth. We both admit to being more mentally not sure than mentally in.

But even after all these years they still choose to stay physically in and put on an act all these years. Go through motions but never lie, just say things like won’t it be wonderful when the Bibles promises come true however that may happen, or something like that. I don’t want to take that away from anyone and don’t want anyone to take that from me.

I wonder how many of the 8 million active pubs are like we are now?