many of you make claim that god does not exist, you say that you found your evidence in the bible, what i want to know is where is the evidence.
i am not interested in just mere thoughts but actuall evidence
I am about to leave this board because I am so tired of the crap it has become not an enjoyable place to be anymore.....SO LONG
Dear KGB,
Please don't leave the board ! You will be missed.
1CORINTHIANS 4:12,13: (12):"and to toil, working with our hands. When being reviled, we bless, when being persecuted, we bear up.(13): when being defamed, we entreat, we have become as the refuse of the world, the offscouring of all things, until now."
Christian Love.
AAF
many of you make claim that god does not exist, you say that you found your evidence in the bible, what i want to know is where is the evidence.
i am not interested in just mere thoughts but actuall evidence
"our marvelous body" Avengers said:" Do you mean Siamese twins, babies born with two heads, heart defects, braintumors, schizophrenia, Parkinsons disease."
Avengers said:"Is that enough proof that God doesn't exist or do you need more?"
Dear Avengers,
The reference I made describing the human body as a marvelous creation of God is true. I'am referring to the first perfect human pair that Jehovah God designed and created, Adam and Eve, and as well in general our bodies, we are not perfect, but our bodies do wanders - It is a marvel, in my opinion, nothing short than a miracle, how our bodies function!
The first human pair, Adam and Eve, were created perfectly to live here on this earth eternally. They did enjoy perfect-life here on earth for awhile. The benefits they enjoyed during their devinely perfect human existence was a very close relantionship with Jehovah God - Adam and Eve worked in harmony with God: They applied devine standards, they applied God's supreme moral laws as well they possessed a PERFECT human body that functioned perfectely. As well they enjoyed life in PARADISE.
Something terrible happened: They both sinned against Jehovah God. They lost the perfect bond of union they enjoyed with their Creator. Their sin was accquired through disobidience. As a result of their sin, all mankind inherited imperfection: We, humans, are all imperfect. Our human bodies are full of anomalies: congenital malformations and mental disorders are examples of these.Our bodies and minds deteorate, age and die.
As imperfect in physical body and mind as we may be, I look at the human body as a miracle from God. It exels any human-built machine!
It is Jehovah God's promise to restore mankind to perfection, as well He gives the gift of everlasting life to those who love HIM and His Son Jesus Christ.
JOHN 3:16:"For God loved the world so much that he gave his only- begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life."
Christian Love,
AAF
many of you make claim that god does not exist, you say that you found your evidence in the bible, what i want to know is where is the evidence.
i am not interested in just mere thoughts but actuall evidence
dnwtsn32 said: "Well then, who created/designed this superior being?"
This Scripture answers the above question:
REVELATION 22:13:" I am the Al'pha and the O.me'ga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
Christian Love,
AAF
many of you make claim that god does not exist, you say that you found your evidence in the bible, what i want to know is where is the evidence.
i am not interested in just mere thoughts but actuall evidence
Absolute proof of God's existence, however, cannot be found anywhere.Dansk
Look around you, Dansk. What do you see? Who created your very own eyes that enable you to physically see your surroundings ... that is, enable you to see God's marvelous creations? How about the ability to rationalize? How about our marvelous body, and all it's amazing functions? Please meditate upon these things!
PSALMS:139:14:" I shall loud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful, As my soul is very well aware."
God's existence is proven everywhere:
- God's existence is proven by the extreme complexity of creation -microscopic and macroscopic organisms and other physical matter.
- God's superlative wisdom to harmoniously ordain this very complex universe.
- God's Word, the Bible.
- Fulfillment of Bible Prophecy.
ISAIAH 45:18" For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited:" I am Jehovah, and there is no one else."
Christian Love,
AAF
dear sword of jah, .
please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .
judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .
It is believed that the heavenly calling ended in the 1930's. This is the new phrase used in current publications instead of dogmatically saying 1935. This belief is based on the events of the convention where Rutherford explained the new interpretation of the meaning of the other sheep. I believe it went something like "those that are from the other sheep" stand up. I think that's what happened if my recollection is true. Most of the attendees stood up showing that most of the new Witnesses in that era were of the other sheep. But to answer your question directly: No, it cannot be proved Biblically that all the annointed were selected by the 1930's. It is just an assumption based on the history of the Organization.
Dear Sword:
ISAIAH:40:21,22,23,24,25 :
(21): " Do YOU people not know? Do YOU not hear? has it not been told to YOU from the out-set? Have YOU not applied understanding from the foundations of the earth?."
(22):" There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth,the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell,"
(23):" the One who is reducing high officials to nothing who has made the very judges of the earth as a mere unreality."
(24):"Never yet have they been planted: never yet has their stump taken root in the earth. And one has only to blow upon them and they dry up, and like stubble the windstorm itself will carry them away."
(25):" But to whom can YOU people liken me so that I should be made his equal?" says the Holy One."
(26):"Raise YOUR eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number, all of whom he calls even by name." Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one[of them] is missing."
ISAIAH 54:17:" Any weapon whatever that will be formed against you will have no success, and any tongue at all that will rise up against you in the judgement you will condemn.This is the hereditary possession of the servants of Jehovah, and their righteousness is from me, is the utterance of Jehovah."
Christian Love,
AAF
dear sword of jah, .
please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .
judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .
Dear Sword,
The Bible admonishes us to carefully examine what we are taught by our teachers and compare their teachings with the Holy Word of God, the Bible to make sure it is so. The Beroeans were assiduous in examining the Holy Scriptures - they always searched of confirmation of the things learned from their teachers and they compared those teachings with the Holy Bible to make sure it was so. The same applies to us.
I would like to share with you these Scriptures bellow for your benefit:
ACTS 17:11:" Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thes.sa.lo.ni'ca, for they received the word with great eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so."
2 CORINTHIANS 11:12,13,14,15,:(12):"Now that I am doing I will still do, that I may cut off the pretext from those who are waiting a pretext for being found equal to us in the office of which they boast. (13) :"Fo such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ." (14):" And no wonder for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light." (15):" It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works."
Christian Love,
AAF
dear sword of jah, .
please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .
judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .
Dear Brother Sword,
You said:" No, it cannot be proved Biblically that all the annointed were selected by the 1930's"
Yet, that's what the Watchtower Society teaches today as TRUTH. They teach that all of the annointed were selected by Jehovah God by the 1930's! The Wachtower Society made this affirmation without Biblical proof!
PROVERBS :11:2:" Has presumptuousness come? Then dishonor will come; but wisdom is with the modest ones."
1 PETER :1:15,16: (15): " but in accord with the Holy One who called YOU, do you also become holy yourselves in all [YOUR] conduct, (16) :" because it is written:" YOU must be holy, because I am holy."
Christian Love,
AAF
dear sword of jah, .
please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .
judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .
AwakenedAndFree said: Next time you go out in service to give an accurate witness of Jehovah God and God's Word, just remember and question yourself : Can I prove BIblically to the public all doctrines taught by the Watchtower? Your response above proves that you can NOT,
Dear Brother Sword,
The Holy Bible teaches us to give an accurate witness of God's HOLY NAME and His Holy Word to the nations. Jesus Christ referred to Jehovah God as "HOLY FATHER" and we, as embassadors to Jehovah God here on earth have to attribute Jehovah God's Holliness, Cleanness in the superlative degree - JEHOVAH GOD does NOT command HIS Witnesses to WITNESS half-truths and hide LIES and teach manly -based doctrines that are unscriptural in JEHOVAH GOD"S name and in JESUS CHRIST"S name. JEHOVAH GOD is HOLY.
1 CORINTHIANS: 3:17:"If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] YOU people are."
ROMANS 8:21:" That the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God."
PSALMS 18:21:"For I kept the ways of Jehovah, And I have not wickedly departed from my God."
PSALMS 19:7:" The law of Jehovah is perfect, bringing back the soul."
PSALMS 19:8: "The orders from Jehovah are upright, causing the heart to rejoice; The commandment of Jehovah is clean, making the eyes shine."
PSALMS 37:23:" By Jehovah the very steps of an able-bodied man have been made ready, And in his way He takes delight."
PSALMS 40:4:" Happy is the able-bodied man that has put Jehovah as his trust And that has not turned his face to defiant people, Nor to those falling away to lies."
PSALMS 50:16:" But to the wicked one God will have to say:"What right do you have to enumerate my regulations, And that you may bear my covenant in your mouth?."
ISAIAH:65:15" And YOU men will certainly lay up YOUR name for an oath by my chosen ones, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will actually put [YOU] individually to death, but his own servants he will call by another name;"
1 JOHN 2:29:" If YOU know that he is righteous, YOU gain the knowledge that everyone who practises righteousness has been born from him."
GALATIANS 5:1:" For such freedom Christ set us free. Therefore stand fast, and do not let yourselves be confined again in a yoke of slavery."
Christian Love,
AAF
dear sword of jah, .
please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .
judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .
Sword of Jah said: No, it cannot be proved Biblically that all the annointed were selected by the 1930's
Dear Sword of Jah,
That's right, Sword of Jah - the Watchtower 1930's doctrine cannot be proven Biblically.Therefore there is no proof from the Bible that the annointed were selected in the 1930's.
Next time you go out in service to give an accurate witness of Jehovah God and God's Word, just remember and question yourself : Can I prove BIblically to the public all doctrines taught by the Watchtower? Your response above proves that you can NOT, Yet the Watchtower claims that The Heavenly Calling was ACCOMPLISHED then without Biblical proof! They apply this doctrine from THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING!
What does PROVERBS 3:5 say about man leaning upon their own understanding? Jehovah God says: DO NOT!
So in conclusion, the Watchtower 1930's doctrine is man-based.How can the Watchtower Society be called the "TRUTH" when it can NOT prove BIblically their 1930's doctrine ?
PROVERBS: 21:3:" To carry on righteousness and judgement is more preferable to Jehovah than Sacrifice."
MARK:7:13:"And thus YOU make the word of God invalid by YOUR tradition which YOU handed down. And many things similar to this YOU do."
EPHESIANS:6:14:" Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness,"
EPHESIANS:6:17:"Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God's word."
PSALMS:91:1,2:(1):" Anyone dwelling in the secret place of the Most High Will procure himself lodging under the very shadow of the Almighty One." (2):I will say to Jehovah:"[YOU are] my refuge and my stronghold," My God, in whom I will trust."
PROVERBS 3:5,6:(5):"Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding.(6):" In all your ways take notice of him and he himself will make your paths straight."
Your last response to me answered the question I posed you. Thank so much for your time.
Christian Love,
AAF
dear sword of jah, .
please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .
judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .
Sword of Jah said: We believe it was clarified by his organization that is guided by Jehovah.
Dear Sword of Jah, You mentioned that the year 1935 is not in the Bible - you are right, it's not! The Watchtower Society claims to have the "1914 Doctrine" clarified by means of using a formula using Bible prophesy. Here is the formula:
October, 607 B.C.E.- October, 1 B.C.E.- = 606 YEARS October 1, B.C.E.- October, 1914 C.E. = 1914 YEARS SEVEN GENTILE TIMES =2,520 YEARS
Please show me the formula the Watchtower Society used in the clarification of Bible prophecy regarding the year 1935 were the Watchtower concluded the year 1935 (or as you say:1930's") being the year Jehovah God accomplished His Heavenly Calling? You told me that the Society understood the Bible prophecy in 1935 (you say 1930's). Were is the formula to show 1935 (or in the 1930's) as been the designated year according to Bible prophesy? Thanks in advance. ISAIAH:"62:6"..." YOU who are making mention of Jehovah, let there be no silence on YOUR part," Christian Love, AAF
