Posts by caves

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The Longest Goodbye Of John McCain

by minimus in

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friends

can you believe it?

this funeral arrangement goes on and on and on.

if the people loved him so much he would have been elected president.

caves

Gezz, I need to apologize for my word vomit towards minimus. If for no one else but myself.

Political news and post trigger me and I said some things to you in the heat of that trigger that I regret and dont truly mean.

A backdrop as to why if anyone cares. Wouldn't blame you if dont.

Last year at this time I was working as a Butler for a well to do Trump supporting family. I was told and it was enforced that I was to watch and agree with all political things regarding Trump. My life was threatened literally more than I can count. My pay denied. To the tune of 30,000 dollars for the year. So I sat and agreed but it still wasnt enough for this family. Because I had.....HAD!!! friends that did not understand why I was 'illegally made" to alter whatever I believed in to keep this job, they broke off. That hurt. But I live in a redneck small town so the rules are made here and enforced here, if you catch my meaning. Legally I had to pursue this to get away from them. It was not pretty. It took me down. It slapped them but destroyed me. After I got real sick, still am, and am fighting with all I got.

They were extreme. They called black people monkeys. Interfered with my side business. The gym i belonged to was very vocal about not supporting Trump. When it was found I was working for a family that did, my membership got cancelled. Was that legal? No. But is it legal in a small town that makes there own rules. No. But who will stop them. No one in a small redneck town....... The list goes on.

So Political post trigger, me big time.

I was not allowed to have a voice. AT ALL!!! Even when I agreed, it was wrong. I was called retarded,ignorant,leftist, (im republican) for not wanting to wake up at 5am to watch the news and praise Trump.And I do mean praise Trump. I did not vote for Hillary, but it doesn't matter . It didn't matter. I was a target and Trump crammed down my throat. News on for 1 year solid near 24/7 about politics. I was made to make meals but had to eat something else. I paid for the food. How could I let this happen?

This seems like something out of a screwed up movie yet it happened.

SOoooooo.... Im now touchy about politics all the way around.

Lastly, and again my apologies for getting nasty with words. I dont want to turn into those who hurt me.

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In search of custody hearing advice ...

by dubstepped in

i don't have kids, but i recently found that someone with kids that lives in my town is also an ex-jw.

she just happened to post on an apostafest thread on facebook for an event that i attended, saw that we lived in the same place, and i met her for the first time tonight.

pretty cool.. she has a 14 year old boy that is super smart and very articulate.

caves

14 is of legal age for a minor to testify. He could write a letter to the judge in his own behalf. Showing initiative might seen as a good step to have taken by the minor to the judge. Especially if the judge is avoiding or not wanting to have the minors testimony.

If shes not getting Child support, get the attorney general involved. There must be some sort of case worker assigned to the case(there always is). Records of missed payments please, at least. Sometimes an attorney general rep will come to a hearing. It usually spells trouble for the nonpaying father.

Approach it from the money angle that the state has to pay while the father does not. Judges usually do not like to have a record of having let a "non paying parent" just slide on by.

Id be cautious on the JW doctrines.

On that note one could add this scripture and tons of JW Literature on taking care of your family. Financially.

“If anyone does not provide for those who are his own, . . . he has disowned the faith.”1 Tim 5:8

If the judge is religious, they may not "get it" even if explained.

I hit it concerning with blood issue. If son were to get injured,'no blood'. A valid concern for his potential safety. Keep it simple. To the point.

Also I really feel the boy needs to write a letter to the judge. Hes going to have to squeeze his voice in somehow. Legally he has one! It needs to find its way to the judges ear. That alone should do it.

It could easily be seen as ex-wife just wants to interfere in any "family""church" time to cause a ruckus.

This doesn't seem like a case to go to hardcore specifically after doctrine issues. The words can intertwine to easy with 'Christianity as a whole and a rebellious teen.'

The father has an attorney.

She doesn't? Attorney general will if nothing else provide proof he has not been paying. They might even come to the hearing.

Also most people and courts are aware of the benefits of counseling for children of divorce. What about a school counselor? Could a school counselor write a recommendation for him to have professional counseling to help him cope with the divorce. Then argue that the father does not provide insurance to help cover that cost. Perhaps the mother in the mean time can find a therapist that can do a sliding fee for her and son just at least to have something documented in that area.

If cross examined issues I would hit are, blood, fear tactics, "shunning",(even if the father says that "shunning doesn't separate family's").

If the mother is at all believing in god, it seems reasonable that she might/ could approach (anything the father throws out there regarding religious stuff) from scriptures/ religious standpoint herself.

Has the minor listened to your podcasts? Might be a good idea. With mothers approval of course.

Look, I hunted my bio father down at 15 and got married 2 days before my 16 birthday. What I mean by that is this 14 year old has got a lot more power, Im thinking, than he knows.

What a sweet thing you are doing dubstepped.

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The Longest Goodbye Of John McCain

by minimus in

jw
friends

can you believe it?

this funeral arrangement goes on and on and on.

if the people loved him so much he would have been elected president.

caves

minimus , I believe you. Thats my point. lol

64

The Longest Goodbye Of John McCain

by minimus in

jw
friends

can you believe it?

this funeral arrangement goes on and on and on.

if the people loved him so much he would have been elected president.

caves

mimimus- 16 long years here and this is all you have left? What, cant hack it on real political forums?

Run out of jw stuff to talk about? Not being a jw gives you the freedom to openly be a jerk?

So bored that all you do is get a small high off of causing shit. People dont get made this way , they are born like this.

You even a few weeks ago whined about someones posts being at the top for to long. Jealous mimimus?

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The Longest Goodbye Of John McCain

by minimus in

jw
friends

can you believe it?

this funeral arrangement goes on and on and on.

if the people loved him so much he would have been elected president.

caves

minimus-I can understand not speaking ill of the dead but he wasn’t anything special.

I certainly wont shed a tear over your death minimus. I could care less if you like me or this gets me thrown off the forum. You unemphatic, narcissist, self licking, uncaring, (except to cause drama on the board) horrible excuse for a person. How long has it been since you talked about anything that wasn't putting others down?

I didnt vote for McCain, as if that matters to you who seems hell bent on putting others down that dont fall at your feet and worship your every word!

Oh but wait...Even IF some did fall at your feet and worshiped your decaying ass, you would still dismiss them. You are a narcissist. And a punk ass bitch one, at that!

Now go slitter your way into the kitchen and eat more ice cream you total waste of space. Im offended your using our earths oxygen.

ANOTHER THREAD FROM THE SHIT STARTER. You must have the shitiest life on the planet. poor poor minimus.

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Comedy

by caves in

i like to watch stand up comedy and comedy clips.

do you have favorite comedians or skits ect?

https://youtu.be/5lgeiil1__s.

caves

https://youtu.be/IOrCpRzbr0c

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1980s Brochure/magazine on demon possession?

by caves in

does anyone else remember a brochure/ magazine from the early 80s with stories of demon possessed individuals and spiritism ?

i dont think i saw it around very long.

it had a story about some lady having her head snapped around by a demon.

caves

Sometimes keeping a letter from a spiritistic relative has brought trouble. Some persons have reported gaining relief by burning letters from relatives who dabble in spiritism.

"Somtimes"? So which is it? If your getting a letter from a 'spritistic' relative do you wait until plates start flying around the room or get a fever before you throw it away?

Or does that, in my case, apply when I have sent anniversary cards that I was told were burned because jehovah doesnt approve of me? Really ? an anniversary card?

My bio parents used to send me toys and my great aunt that raised me from 4 1/2 to 12 would rip them up in front of me and call them demonic.

Can you imagine being ripped away from your parents in to the JW world wanting your parents so bad only to get a letter and toy from your mom or dad and have it destroyed in front of your face while blaming me for "satan being attracted to me." (jw great aunts words). What a total mind F@#%.

I was told my parents were satanic.And after a couple of years letters came no more. Before I left at 12 I found boxes of letters. The ones that never came. I was infuriated. And heartbroken for my parents.

I hope she( jw great aunt) enjoyed destroying her own niece my mother. I digress.

Caves.

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1980s Brochure/magazine on demon possession?

by caves in

does anyone else remember a brochure/ magazine from the early 80s with stories of demon possessed individuals and spiritism ?

i dont think i saw it around very long.

it had a story about some lady having her head snapped around by a demon.

caves

Anders Anderson- Thank you thats not the one i remember but Near the beginning it said 'brothers have had difficulty burning "demonic" things even with gasoline.' then later it says--- 84. Wood is still just wood no matter how much men may work on it. That is why a wooden image can be burned up and destroyed just like any other piece of wood. It cannot protect itself from being destroyed. And the same is true of cloth or string or mud or stone or seeds or anything else that men may use to make some object for spiritistic worship. They can all be destroyed in one way or another. If these things cannot protect themselves, they certainly cannot protect others.

So does a demonic gas infused smurf stuffed animal ,for example might not burn or have a hard time burning due to to much demonic influence? But idol used for "false worship" would burn up. Weeeeeeeeee..........

Who writes this crap?

Doesn't seem like there are magazines like this out anymore from the borg.

Snugglebunny-Another Christian woman kept a handbag given her by an aunt who was a fortune-teller. Using the handbag in the ministry, she experienced powerful thoughts of "Go home!" Bad thoughts rushed into her mind almost audibly, all of them anti-kingdom. She could not understand herself, as these negative thoughts entered her mind as if by telephone, so that she complained of "hearing herself think." Only after getting rid of the handbag did she get relief.

So much for the Holy spirit being with her in the field ministry. Im sure she counted her time as well.

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Protesters at today’s assembly on the news

by Tahoe in

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https://www.wgal.com/article/jehovah-s-witness-event-met-with-protestors/22834659 .

caves

AudeSapere- When she asks 'Why'?, the attendant, with snide condescension tells her: "Because we have revoked your *supposed* permission to even be here. That's why."

I felt this news segment did a very good job at reporting this protest. The type of way in which the attendant spoke to her is the same way I remembered being spoke to as a child growing up in the jwcult.

Wasanelder Once- I agree.

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1980s Brochure/magazine on demon possession?

by caves in

does anyone else remember a brochure/ magazine from the early 80s with stories of demon possessed individuals and spiritism ?

i dont think i saw it around very long.

it had a story about some lady having her head snapped around by a demon.

caves

Does anyone else remember a brochure/ magazine from the early 80s with stories of demon possessed individuals and spiritism ? I dont think I saw it around very long.

It had a story about some lady having her head snapped around by a demon. It was graphic and scary for a little tike that I was then.

What was the name of it? Where did it go?

When I was in trouble which was often, I was made to read it.