Posts by caves

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Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

caves

Now we need 100 more cases like this to come forward in rapid succession, that win against the cult, break the bank!!!!

The poor wtbts cult. Rolls eyes.

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This is getting annoying!

by blankspace in

there are some jws that are downright annoying!

check out the comments in the link to this article.. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/techie-jumps-to-death-from-bengaluru-workplace/articleshow/64549735.cms.

i would love to post a comment to his comment, drawing attention to child abuse, the arc, un affiliation and much more, but i've got to sign in to comment.

Ive seen jws comment on obituaries online or other news like the article. It is so weird to read them when they say something like ' Ecl 9:5 says 'the dead are conscience of nothing'. and quote some more bible verses out of context. You can almost feel the superior attitude jump off the page. Blame, guilt, and a pat on their own back for "enlightening" the entire comment section. Rarly a mention of empathy towards the person that died.

It is annoying.

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question about the go bags.

by goingthruthemotions in

its been a minute since posting, have been trying to put this cult in my review mirror and just live life.

but you know this beast rears it's evil head.

my wife found my crisis of conscience book and out came the horns plus i guess what she is hearing at the meetings isn't helping either.

caves

'Go bags' are a good thing although I personally call them 'If the fit hits the shan' bags.

I had these for years and rotate them out on occasion. But unlike the jws its for safety preparedness , as much as I can be. Not for Armageddon.

Besides when the aliens beam me up I want to offer them some of our earthly canned delights. LOL JK about the aliens.

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JWs using 'apostate' phraseology?

by neat blue dog in

i've mentioned before how a regular pioneer used the phrases "tight-pants tony" and "don't drink the kool-aid".

well the other week, a different regular pioneer, and elderly one in fact, was talking about the simplified watchtower being discontinued and the normal one replacing it, and she said 'i guess they're just gonna dumb-down everything'.

then too even the org itself used the words "fade" and "shun" in recent articles, words that were previously shied away from.. anybody here experienced something similar, a seeming pimi saying something that makes you wonder if they've been sneaking ex-jw 'spiritual food' on the side?.

caves

The simplified version was a real mistake for the jws. It was an insult not only to the 'householder' but the r&f regarded it as making it so simple that the "dumb worldly people" could even 'get it'.

I believe that the simplified version would be seen as crumbs to the "oh so spiritually starving" hence the 'meaty stuff' the uber dubs use to feel more superior in their own minds. Imo

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JWs using 'apostate' phraseology?

by neat blue dog in

i've mentioned before how a regular pioneer used the phrases "tight-pants tony" and "don't drink the kool-aid".

well the other week, a different regular pioneer, and elderly one in fact, was talking about the simplified watchtower being discontinued and the normal one replacing it, and she said 'i guess they're just gonna dumb-down everything'.

then too even the org itself used the words "fade" and "shun" in recent articles, words that were previously shied away from.. anybody here experienced something similar, a seeming pimi saying something that makes you wonder if they've been sneaking ex-jw 'spiritual food' on the side?.

caves

neat blue dog-

Anybody here experienced something similar, a seeming PIMI saying something that makes you wonder if they've been sneaking ex-JW 'spiritual food' on the side?

Yes I have experienced something similar from a PIMI . As for sneaking 'Exjw spiritual food on the side', who can say?

Ive heard the same 'murmurs' of literature being to simple. Ive also heard 'murmurs from single 'brother and sisters' that Jw.0rg has lot of material and articles for families and kids/teens specific, but not for anyone one else that doesn't fall in those categories and it make them feel left out. Umm....because they are.

But the very next time I talked to said person and brought it up they denied ever saying it.(cognitive dissonance) This has happened a fair number of times in my experience.

Also a pioneer jw had many times told me how long they'd pioneered and what they gave up and when they got ill and had to go to the hospital that no one was there for them , not a single jw called or visited. They were balling there eyes out ....then suddenly out of no where because they realized they just got vulnerable with an exjw they stopped and acted like everything was fine, like they were talking to the devil (me ) and the projecting started. Thats when its time for me to go. LOL. Because I call it out which triggers anger and more projection a long with a large dose of guilt stirred up in them trying to make it about me being a bad influence ( all from a 5 min of a conversation.) and I wasn't even the one who brought it up initially.

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Funny ex-jw memes

by Apostate Anonymous in

backstory:.

so my born-in cousin who recently left the org is looking to start an ex-jw / group instagram based in socal.

he asked me if i had any ideas for a photo that can used for the instagram page and this is what i made for him:.

caves

days of future passed- Hahaha You do know that SANTA can make the word SATAN?

When I was a little jdub and all the Christmas songs were playing everywhere I would sing 'Satan Claus is Coming to Town'. Aaaaaand I would get in trouble for it. lol. Sometimes I did it to piss uber dubs off.

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I'm Going to Regular Meetups at LDS Church!

by Simon in

jw
friends

yeah, i know ... who would want to step foot anywhere near a new-age religious church after being brought up a jw, right?.

i know some will already be judging me, but hold-on - it maybe even worse than you imagine!.

the group i meet-up with ... don't go inside, we never pray, we, erm, we just hang out in the car-park.. you're thinking "wtf?

caves

Simon .LOL! I just snorted.

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Study Watchtower confirms shunning spiritually weak. How nice!

by Isambard Crater in

it really hurt to hear brothers and sisters commenting about this at the meeting yesterday.. "as in solomon’s case, one of the greatest threats to spirituality is friendship with those who do not understand or respect jehovah’s standards.

some may be associated with the congregation but may be spiritually weak.

others could be relatives, neighbors, coworkers, or schoolmates who are not worshippers of jehovah.

caves

Darkknight757-Wouldn’t the spiritually weak benefit from association with spiritually strong people? Most of “Christendom’s” churches recognize that.

And most all physiologist, therapist,and any one with half a brain ...the very basic of all human needs... to be loved and excepted.

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Study Watchtower confirms shunning spiritually weak. How nice!

by Isambard Crater in

it really hurt to hear brothers and sisters commenting about this at the meeting yesterday.. "as in solomon’s case, one of the greatest threats to spirituality is friendship with those who do not understand or respect jehovah’s standards.

some may be associated with the congregation but may be spiritually weak.

others could be relatives, neighbors, coworkers, or schoolmates who are not worshippers of jehovah.

caves

They have always had this stance.

I wonder how many "spirtually weak" individuals in the cong just needed love that was denied to them because of this awful teaching? Plenty.

Isolated within an isolated minority group. How disgusting.

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

caves

Freedom rocks-Does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?

I've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but I feel no further forward about what I truly believe.

For example I looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then I've seen counter arguments on YouTube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

I'm left confused because there seems to be strong arguments for and against most theories and discoveries.

12 years ago after I had saved up 100,s of books of all kinds of spirituality, religions, archaeology and more I moved in to the mountains off the grid and while working my two full time jobs and learning to live off the grid I read most all of them. MIND FUCKING BLOWN.

The first year was great. The next 4 were a living hell. Why? because the only thing left to pick apart for me was my belief system.

Let me tell you, you do not know yourself unless you live isolated in the mountains with no human interaction for months at a time(no internet, just books and nature) then every tiny 'demon' you have hidden in the depths of your mind will surface.

It drove me to madness and I got help. But I understand myself in a way I never thought possible.

And if I thought going off the grid was hard. Coming back on and diving into technology has been equally as hard if not harder now.

I always dreamed of living off the grid growing up and I did it. I saw so many things. Grizzlies, mountain lions, cougars, and much more.

One of my summers in the mountains I remember a plant I had never seen before that had purple flowers on it and I was so lonely I would talk to it. It didnt talk back.lol. Unless you count just feeling connected to the peace it brought me when nothing else did.

I cant believe 'nor others' that I went to such extremes to escape my own mindand find it and bebunk it.. Yet what I really did or how it played out is I learned more about myself then I could have ever learned. It turned out I couldn't escape myself nor the abuse from the wtbts cult. For me it accelerated the deprogramming. And broke my heart.

Now I still live pretty far out and am trying to reintegrate back into society and it has been a very long process.

I find that spirituality is a never ending spiral even after all that experience and I also found that people need people.

So much much more I could say about my experience but I digress for now.

To the OP, thousands upon thousands of years and people are still 'Looking'. I dont think we will find the "answers" in our life time in a framework that is operating on a flawed premise.

Science,hard facts, archaeology, are a decent place to start. Imo.

Caves