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2020--2 Letters--Coronavirus--Memorial!

by Atlantis in

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2020 march 9, letter.

https://docdro.id/cfjrhgb.

2020 march 12, letter--coronavirus--memorial.

caves

Memorial over Skype. No cong mixing if in person gathering for memorial. Follow your local laws about meeting together. Sick people stay at home..

Big take aways, imo,

They have a prerecorded memorial talk on the website 'if an elder isn't present'. More like for jws to sit at home and watch it. Celebrate it. Damn, and I was going to get my hair done.

Mentioned "final part of the last days" and said "Current global pandemic reminds us of the four horseman of the apocalypse" , the wording of 'we can easily back out of that' sort of way "like always". IT NEVER SAID GREAT TRIBULATION.

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No Circuit assemblies until further notice United States.

Regional assemblies are still going forward as planned.

Weddings and funerals to limited to a small amount of people.

Field service still going! Repeat field service Still going. Must not be in the Great trib yet. Hummm

Baptisms planned for Circuit assemblies that are now cancelled will await instruction from Circuit overseers as to how and when.

That's right, Baptisms! Still! Must not be the great trib. Otherwise baptisms would not be necessary per how its been taught.

And follow the body of elders arrangements specific to your area (due to the virus). Subject to change.

This is a shit show in the making.

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Thank you for posting this letter.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

caves

slimboyfat-I hear reports that some Americans are reluctant to get tested because they can’t afford the medical bill and can’t afford to take time off work or even lose their jobs. Is that true?

Absolutely true! That's America for you. That's why I work for myself in part. No one is going to make me fret over losing my job because I'm running a fever, sick or anything else. #1 reason I've quit any job. The sickening part is its rampant in the food industry. Like its a badge of honor. I have actually gotten raises and promotions years ago just for showing up sick. How f'ing sad is that. The alternative was being short on bills and fired. No thanks.

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Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson / Coronavirus

by compound complex in

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/media/tom-hanks-coronavirus.html.

tom hanks said on wednesday that he and his wife, rita wilson, learned they had the coronavirus.

the 63-year-old academy award-winning actor is in australia, where he was set to film a movie about the life of elvis presley.. “hello, folks.

caves

Road to nowhere-Caves. We all get attachment to inanimate things. Maybe not talking to tk them. Try to find someone to converse with

Agreed. That was a long time ago. I talk to people now. And plants, and inanimate objects still.HA!( just not in front of people). Lol. If you ever get to experience solitude for a few years stretch, then you'd understand. That movie did a good job with how that happens. I identified.

If mr. Hanks gets welk we can aee how long and severe the illness is; if he dies we will know better how serious this is.

No we won't. He could have underlying conditions that we don't know about.

Faceless stranger?

He is still a stranger, I doubt any of us here 'know' him.

I like him as an actor. Buts that all I know about him. His performances.

It is sad that the media would steal the nickels off of a dead mans eyes for ratings. Especially Hollywood. I have really tried to curve any extra accolades or give preferential treatment in my mind towards actors and actresses beyond the performance. Way to many in Hollywood I looked up to as a kid turned out to be monsters in real life.

What if he and his wife gets better? Then some people will be extra flippantly self assuming about the virus.

What if they die? Then some will be in hysterics about this global pandemic even more so because it was Tom Hanks and his wife. As if the other 1000s were less important. Rubbish. I am aware you didn't say that specifically.

I suppose the point does boil down to, 'if famous people are getting it, it must be "very" serious.' In the eyes of many. Yet it is.

Since I've veered off topic a bit...A few more famous people that have the virus .https://www.oregonlive.com/news/j66j-2020/03/f613d909c86535/here-are-the-famous-people-who-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-illness-covid19.html

Also now celebs are posting pics with designer hazmat suits on. Well that was predictable. If its under control by Halloween that will be my costume. A tricked out hazmat suit.

They are saying Tom Hanks is the "Guiding light of the Corona-virus." Someone has to be , I guess. ugh

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The real Dracula?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i'm a bit of a horror fan - i love horror movies and the novel dracula by bram stoker is a pretty good read - especially the first four chapters, with jonathan harker being in dracula's castle.. i've heard before that stoker based count dracula on a 15th century voivod (prince) of wallachia who went down in history as vlad the impaler - apparently, he was extremely barbaric and cruel, as his name suggests.. vlad's father was also called vlad.

daddy vlad was apparently part of an order of crusader knights, the order of the dragon.

this order was formed to protect christian europe against muslim ottomans/turks.

caves

I'm personally obsessed with Romania. 'Dracula' in Romania is just for tourist. The irony is Romanians do not celebrate Halloween. Dracula is such Westernized hype. And old stories made up.

I do think that Bram Stokers Dracula is one of the best in terms of visuals and story line plus actors that played in it. The kind I movie I wish would be the place where Hollywood stops. I have yet to find a Dracula movie that tops it.

I don't watch many horror movies anymore. Something I never thought Id grow out of. But I used to a lot.

As far as knowledge of the real Vlad, a lot of it is made up. There are the Slavic and German recounts that don't match up. Not only the obvious Dracula Vampire stuff but the manner in which he killed the Ottomans and the Transylvanian Saxons.

In Romania he was and is a hero. He was leader 3 times, known for "getting it done" so to speak. He was authoritarian. He was cruel. (it was the dark ages back then) cruelty was the norm in fighting.

But he was a strong leader protecting his land from invaders. Romanians view him as doing what was necessary to protect his country from Muslims and Islam who would have completely destroyed Romania if it not were for Vlad.

From what I can tell or read he really wanted peace and part of his reign was peaceful. Until invaders threatened the country's entire way of life.

Your going to love that book.

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Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson / Coronavirus

by compound complex in

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/media/tom-hanks-coronavirus.html.

tom hanks said on wednesday that he and his wife, rita wilson, learned they had the coronavirus.

the 63-year-old academy award-winning actor is in australia, where he was set to film a movie about the life of elvis presley.. “hello, folks.

caves

"WILSON....... " The volley ball in 'Cast Away' that Tom Hanks stared in. W I L S O N......

I meant that to be funny but then I just watched the clip of that part of the movie and it wasn't.

That part made me cry really hard because I lived isolated in the mountains and became attached to a plant that grew native I had never seen. I was dealing with the hard part of PTSD back then. When finally moved from that spot I cried so hard because I realized that I had been talking to that plant for months and it for all intents and purposes , it became my friend. Went back to visit it many times.

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Pedophiles and Sex Offenders Are Fighting Back Against Their Victims!

by BucketShopBill in

use your search engine to locate all the lawsuits pedophiles are filling up the courts with to say the "sex registry is unconstituional", "pedophlia is a choice like homosexuality is" and reclassification of their crimes.

consenting male adults is their choice, how can a five-year old boy give his choice to have sex with a forty-five year old male?

you hear things as time passes by, i had the chance to listen to a legal professional say that if gay marrige was approved pedophiles would be banging at the door to get recognized as a social norm.

caves

Tameria-when you think about it doesn't that make pedos rapist as well?

It seems logical. Cut and dry. Not sure how anyone could see it another way.

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I would dearly love to see the jw that groomed and molested me to 'fight back'. I would have absolutely no problem killing the mother f'er. I would gladly spend my life in jail. Gladly!

I would drag his ass out to the woods and torture him for as long as I could. That's a big reason I cant go back where I was raised. I'm not sure I would be able to control myself. Especially since he has a track record of pedophilia. It ripped my family apart. Never to be repaired. I would like to think I could control myself, but I really don't think I could in that situation. The damage it caused. The lives destroyed. The innocent children that never really had a damn chance.

I know this thread is old. But it popped up and those are my thoughts on pedos.

They don't even keep pedos in general population when they happen to land in jail usually, because the inmates WILL kill them or try.

I went to jail when I was 21 for 3 months for fighting a cop. I know stupid. (never charged me) It was to teach me a lesson and it did. I was a lose canon back then. Anyway a pedo came in and somehow they made a mistake and put him in general population. It took a dozen guards to get the inmates off of him when the inmates found out. When they were done, lets just say I don't think he made it to his court date capable of forming sentences and probably not after that ever again.

So go ahead pedos, fight back. You all must have a death wish.

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Social distancing and the Memorial

by Kingdavid41 in

with the coronavirus now categorized as a global pandemic and many large gatherings are now social distancing for safety concerns of contacting and spreading the virus.. will the memorial of christ death take place on april 7 2020 worldwide where thousands will gaether in large crowds to commemorate the death of jesus as commanded in the bible.

jesus gave the command to keep doing this in remembrance of him or will sound, reasonableness and good judgment for safety overrule on that special night.

my guess is that it will not be canceled regardless of the frightening and very real pandemic the virus has caused around the world!.

caves

Something to warn the public about - kind of like that nutty sect in South Korea that spread the virus, dangerous zealots that put others at risk.

Yes it is something to warn the public about.

I'm curious how they will get non members to go if they are not going door to door as much right now and in some places not at all? It il be interesting to see if the attendance numbers drop. Which could easily be used as "the love of the greater number "cooling off". '

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Social distancing and the Memorial

by Kingdavid41 in

with the coronavirus now categorized as a global pandemic and many large gatherings are now social distancing for safety concerns of contacting and spreading the virus.. will the memorial of christ death take place on april 7 2020 worldwide where thousands will gaether in large crowds to commemorate the death of jesus as commanded in the bible.

jesus gave the command to keep doing this in remembrance of him or will sound, reasonableness and good judgment for safety overrule on that special night.

my guess is that it will not be canceled regardless of the frightening and very real pandemic the virus has caused around the world!.

caves

I wouldn't be surprised if it was streamed live at Warwick and recorded by the GB. Log into jwbroadcasting and celebrate the memorial behind a screen. Asking the ones who watched it to report themselves as having watched.

The partakers to find their own wine and bread.

It would actually fit in nicely with the direction I think they might could head in regards online meetings. Then from there they could start charging a monthly subscription fee.

Only hold 'in real life' gatherings once a month or something. Or just at the assemblies after the pandemic is over. Seems like the perfect storm for this.

Reasoning and sound judgment you say? The GB? Never! Only fake empathy. Supported by non fake money.

Conversely, I can see everyone wearing plastic gloves, face masks, and a few wine stained masks.

Also I could see it split up. Small house gatherings.

Would not surprise me if its a combo of all of this.

Sure will be interesting.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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friends

this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

caves

Drive through testing sites up and running in the Seattle area. Can only test 50-60 a day. That started two days ago so may be able to test more as of today.

I heard of more testing facilitates today because a client in their (70s) is getting the test done because they are ill. They are moneyed so that might make a difference on the using the testing facility that is not drive through and not in a hospital. IDK, I didn't ask.

So I am obviously anxious to know as I have been working around them for the last several days. I'm trying not to panic. My other client was ill last week and I was around them today. This person is actually an 'immunity' therapist, whatever that means. They said borders should have been closed weeks ago.

Anyhow, Its becoming a little to ghost town-ish around here.

I live in a place where everyday a logger or psycho drivers try to run you off the road. Its a thing in this little town, no joke. However the last week it seems everyone is driving really careful which is fine, but considering the norm it does feel very weird.

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How Are JWs Affected By The Coronavirus?

by minimus in

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will meetings and conventions be canceled?

the ministry?

shepherding calls, get togethers?

caves

Apparently jehovah's holy spirit doesn't work at the kh anymore. They just don't make 'holy spirit' like they used to. Shucks.