Posts by caves

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What SHOULD have woken you up ?

by Phizzy in

for myself, there is an embarrassingly long list of things that really should really have woken me up, fully.

it was a long process for me, as a mind controlled born in, things i simply did not agree with, or knew were downright wrong, that built and built, and, eventually i woke up, after 58 bloody years in !.

but just mainly for fun, what should have woken you up ?.

caves

Many things.

At 10yrs old when 3 elders questioned me for hours about being molested by my jw grandfather. Every. single. detail. Like they were getting turned on or some shit. Nothing a 10 yr old should ever have gone through. The icing on the shit cake of a meeting is I got privately reproved for not screaming out. What in the world were they thinking?

At 17 when I got dfed for marring a non witness.

At 18 when I strangled an elder outside for spanking my son and they so much as didn't say a word to me. So you choke someone and no one says anything. But get fucking molested or marry an outsider than apparently your worthy of death spiritually and physically.

When my wife cheated on me with my best friend in the cong, three separate times and each time the elders didn't want to "stumble" her as she wasn't baptized yet, but the guy was baptized and they did nothing. You have got to be kidding me. So nothing was done to either one.

I could name more but I won't.

They all know how I feel about about it where I grew up, and it does give me immense satisfaction to know that if they ever saw me in person that they would most likely break their neck trying to run. Because they know I'd break it for them anyway. Glady! Anyday! And happily go to prison for life. It is literally for peoples safety I don't go back to where I grew up.

That sure took any pity I might be feeling towards their plight right out of the equation.

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Its so crazy that so many of us were so indoctrinated that certain things didn't wake us up sooner.

If there was a devil I'm sure his religion of choice would be the JWS.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

caves

They're setting up a two hundred bed field hospital a few miles from my house. I'm not big on conspiracy theories but this is making me wonder if somebody knows something they're not telling us.

I think its just due to Seattle being ground zero in the USA, with more cases of COVID-19. Ships on the way too, if they haven't arrived already.

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Due to the umm, err, loose nature? of Seattle's law structure (That's as nice as I can put it) Its a do what we say not as as we do kind of of place. But we said a lot of nothing. Lovely.

All you have to do in Seattle is tell someone you don't recycle your plastic and that should take care of anyone coming around you. LOL. Easy social distancing.

In a state where more people believe in Sasquatch than they do there own local representatives (JK, sortof), It comes as no surprise that "conspiracy" is on the tips of peoples tongues.

Conspiracy's are abound everywhere right now. I wouldn't worry to much about it. Not much one can do anyway except try to keep a level head. And that's looks like its hard for folks everywhere during this pandemic.

Even for me, as I wait for my personal Sasquatch to come rescue me. It better hurry before I shapeshift into a chubracaba and run off into the wild. I got to have a sense of humor, its not been a fun week.

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Generally Speaking Do You Trust Your Government?

by minimus in

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as a us citizen, i am usually a bit skeptical of what comes out of the mouths of government officials.

often they may speak the truth but i’m not convinced of whatever they are saying as being 100% true.

do you believe your government implicitly?

caves

Why do people think that Trump seems to be the only elected official on the planet. Why is he the go to on a general question about government? There are many governments.

Generally speaking I do Not trust the government. Any small group of people(government) that sends their solders to die and get maimed in war but can't take care of them when they get back from war, fighting so that the upper echelon can even have a government is some sick ass twisted shit.

Is it really "government" ? Or is it all just big business? They just say whatever it takes to get elected. Or simply say screw it and buy their seat in office. I'm not even sure one could be an 'elected official' unless they were well versed in lying.

I'm sure there are exceptions.

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The zoom app

by Fadeaway1962 in

there going to start using the zoom app for the meeting ,got to go a help my aged parents to set it up.. i'm not very good at the technical stuff is there any way of hiding your self on the app or is this a way of them checking to see who's listening to the meetings.. thought fading would have been easier during this virus.. thanks.

caves

Fadeaway1962- is there any way of hiding your self on the app or is this a way of them checking to see who's listening to the meetings.

From Zoom:

To hide yourself, click anywhere on your video window (the one showing yourself), and then click on the three dots that appear in the upper right hand corner. Select "Hide Myself" from the menu that appears.
Show/Hide self view: Show or hide your video feed on the Zoom Room's display. If video is turned off, this will show or hide your name or profile picture.

Read about here https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360021921032-In-Meeting-Controls

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What are your favorite film clips?

by LoveUniHateExams in

hey, guys - how ya doin?.

so, what are your favorite movie clips?.

gimme your best movie clips, please, ladies and gentlemen.. here's one of mine ….

caves

Airplane scene where one of the passengers flip out. / On that note you may all line up to slap me when I start freaking out like this. Lol

https://youtu.be/FNkpIDBtC2c

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JW.org coronavirus response - The Four Horsemen

by Badfish in

have you guys seen jw.org today?

the main article is entitled “the four horsemen of revelation.”.

looks like the pale rider has arrived..... .

caves

It must really please the 'loving god' jehober to see all the turmoil and panic among his earthly children just so jw's can have something to write about!

I keep noticing that they(GB) never say great tribulation has begun. They dance all around it. Unless that has just changed?

How could someone worship a god that creates "children" and then punishes them for "crimes" they never committed. What a and sick twisted god/father that would be.

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Funny Now How Nobody Is Up In Arms About Closing The Border

by minimus in

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that applies not just in this country.

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i just thought it was worth mentioning.🤔.

caves

Let me guess. When Trump closes borders on a Tuesday, it's racist. When Trudeau closes them on the Wednesday it's all "amazing" foreign policy?

Expect some serious decoupling, the US should become an industrial powerhouse and obliterate their economy.

It seems you couldn't be more correct about the Trump- Trudeau analysis.

The us should become an industrial power house. Not sure why this hasn't happened yet since America is energy independent. And has been , I might add, for decades. Unfortunately Americas are not independent on trade and goods. Yes I know , greed from corporations outsourcing jobs @ 2$ an hour vs what ever the pay to bring back industry to ones own country. If those CEOs could manage to live off of a 100,000,000 bonus instead of a 250,000,000 bonus. They might have to only have 5 Ferrari's instead of 10.( over generalization, but just making a point)

This global pandemic hopefully will wake up all countries to take major proactive steps to become more independent.

Trade is one thing. Being dependent on another country for basic needs is crazy.

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How was it possible that some members fall asleep or nod off during meetings?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

a while back, we had a saturday wedding reception for a brother and sister from our kingdom hall.

the reception ended at midnight.

most of us got home at around 1:00 a.m. our sunday public talk meeting started at 9:30 a.m. .

caves

I too wonder how it is not possible to fall asleep during meetings.

Funny thing is that the experienced ones could still follow the direction to look up scriptures ,correctly, while fast asleep! I have never understood that.

I was one of those. LOL.

Phizzy-LMAO

Or when during the announcements the speaking Bro would ask the Treasurer about something to make a point in his update to the congregation and the Treasurer was asleep. While everyone stared and giggled.

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Hot off the press - Maintaining Congregation Meetings During COVID-19 Pandemic

by pixel in

27:23; sfl chap.

(sfl chap.

caves

Rebel8-We were to memorize phone numbers and addresses of nearby dubs, change clothes on the way as a disguise, lie to officials, etc.

I remember when I was little the congregations were told to write jws info on construction paper and pencil so it could be disposed of quickly if , I mean "when" they came after gods people. To help "save the brothers". Looking back, how was it that jeho couldn't just do that part. Its always pushed back on the r&f. They will do everything now but say "its the great tribulation". Then when the members think that way during a crisis, they don't stop that thinking. Then after a crisis is over they (the gb) make the members feel like idiots with there double speak and back stepping.

Yes I cant see how this will not cost them in a major way this time.

However right now,for the moment, I imagine their faith is stronger than ever. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I'm pretty sure this is how a conversation with them would go in regards me: If I were calling my great aunt that raised me. She's a mean old bitch.

Me: Hi xxx, I just wanted to call and see if you are ok?

Her: We are in the Great Tribulation right now and Armageddon is imminent. You should have came back when you had a chance. Now your going to die and you deserve it.

Me: I just wanted to see if you were ok?

Her: I cant talk to you, you are full of Satan that god will destroy. Click!

Sigh. And because I've gone thru that scenario with her when the 08' recession began the follow up conversation "to be one of our last" was like this:

Me: Hi xxx, just calling to see how you are doing?

Her: I don't understand why you don't just turn back to jehovah? I'm so lonely. No one ever checks on me at the KH when I'm sick. (realizing what she just said) I'm sorry but I cant talk to you until you turn back to jehovah.

Me: I'm going back to the meetings.

Her: Oh Really? (excited)! ( catches herself) Well you probably will die at Armageddon anyway.

Me: How can you say that, you are not jehovah?

Her: You are so spiritually weak right now and its not safe to talk to you.

Me: Okay, well are you doing ok?

Her: I don't wish to talk to you, you abandoned me. (she starts crying)

Me: No I didn't, I used to beg you to come over and see my me and my son. You never came. Yet I still kept calling and visited you.& That was before I got dfd.

Her: (crying) I'm so sorry for the way I treated you. I'm so sorry. (Balling at this point) I didnt know how to act when you were molested. He has really changed. But I still hate him. What if jehovah wont forgive me for hating him.

Me: Its ok xxx, I still love you.

( suddenly and most violently she shifts her tone)

Her: You are just full of Satan. I've got to go!. Click!

WTF

And I just broke down while writing that crap. That scenario I wrote played out over and over again until I had enough. Sorry if this was way out of place... it just came out

I went on an typed it because I was thinking of calling her just because I'm a human and shit. But I needed this reminder so I don't put myself in an unhealthy emotional bind.

So trying to go back to the topic. Damn they sure have some f'up responses to things. So I can only imagine how horrifying this is for them. Especially the ones like my great aunt.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

jw
friends

this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

caves

Stores were getting rather empty today. I don't think I saw anyone smiling. Meat is just about wiped out in this town and neighboring towns. No Tp left. But a decent amount of napkins and paper towels still.

The big bread store in town that usually gives away bread they have so much, just sold the last of their bread. Potatoes are gone. Pasta is near gone.

This is not pretty. Everyone, I literally mean everyone I spoke with today said that they are ready to fight, with guns and whatever means necessary. The general vibe is switching to "we are not going to sit back and take it".

This is starting to make the recession of 2008 look like a child's play.

Near 1/3 of Americans lost their job over night? How can this possibly turn out well. The air is thick with panic.