recognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, delaware governor john carney, new york governor andrew m. cuomo, new jersey governor phil murphy, connecticut governor ned lamont, pennsylvania governor tom wolf, and rhode island governor gina raimondo today announced the creation of a multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work.
this announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the covid-19 pandemic.. the coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state — will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.. https://news.delaware.gov/2020/04/13/governor-carney-and-five-governors-announce-multi-state-council-to-get-people-back-to-work-and-restore-the-economy/.
meanwhile on the west coast:.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......
And a Captain needs crew. Otherwise he is captain only in his mind.
Piss poor when these are the sayings of a president DURING A PANDEMIC and frankly a world wide great depression!
Makes me think its all made up. Its all a game of ratings. On both sides.
As in, America has been a dictatorship disguised as a democracy for several decades. And this is the new spokes person.
I think i'll just sit these convos out from now on. To much from all angles.
i'm generally not a trump fan but i do agree that things that affect the entire country should be handled in a centralized manner.
trump is stating that he will dictate when the states can open up again.
many governors, dems and reps, are fighting that saying that they have the power, not the president.
The same applies to other national issues such as elections. Having 50 separate "national" elections just doesn't make sense when a President is being chosen to represent the entire country. Have one national election and that is it.
Fromwww.usa.gov> elections.
In the Electoral College system, each state gets a certain number of electors based on its total number of representatives in Congress. Each elector casts one electoral vote following the general election; there are a total of 538 electoral votes. The candidate that gets more than half (270) wins the election.
Looks national to me. Or something!
What an interesting game you play Rub. Do you have to shift sideways on each ass cheek when you straddle that fence your on? Or is there one side you prefer over the other?
That's a joke. (last sentence of your bio)
I'm really not sure what to think after this last few days. I have opinions and ironically in line with much of what trump talks about. But there are some fundamental things that go against a particular values I carry.
I do prefer my right side of the ass cheek when I sit on a fence.lol
Interesting times.
my dad just became mistrial servant should i move out i’m almost 18. what the hell should i do?
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In this instance, fake till you make it.
Unless your being abused, personally I would think that staying should be ok. You don't have to tell them what you really feel about the jw organization.
If I remember correctly, jws excuse/reasoning or rational for telling a lie is 'when someone is not entitled to hear the truth'.
Conversely if you have a place to go that is a safe and fostering place where you can grow then do that.
Other wise, maybe keep your ear to the ground about a place of your own and until then stick it out.
What are the benefits of you leaving and what are the draw backs? Carefully weigh them.
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
Slimboyfat- There is some evidence, but its really to soon to tell in the long run.
For instance, if I get pneumonia like I used to get over and over again, I could very well have lasting lung damage, like I do now. I have two nodules in my lungs from years of what seemed never ending pneumonia. They are the same as they were 10 years ago as they are now. But, If the doctor was to, or when they have ex-rayed my lungs right after a bout of pneumonia they have shown that those nodules or scar tissue being inflamed for months, giving a false reading.Then they go back to the way they were.
I've gone thru it enough to not let them ex-ray me for a few months so they do not scare the crap out of me having multiple test over the next months after, only for them to see that they got a bit to 'gung ho' with tests to soon. That's is my case.
I'm not saying it wont have lasting effects. I'm saying that to really get a clear picture of "lasting damage" will take some years to come to a conclusion on lasting damage to healthy individuals vs lasting damage to individuals who had underlying health problems to begin with.
Those are my thoughts. I just don't see how they can conclude this with certainty yet.
well as usual, the watchtower wants to make sure the rank & file keep the money coming in.
even if the jw's have nothing to eat.. 2020-04-10--congregation donations by electronic funds transfer.
https://docdro.id/himg31q.
I've known some members of the cong to cover what was lacking in funds for the monthly upkeep and kh payments. Usually some 'well to do' elder. I'm willing to bet that there are many congs that a few of the members cover the remaining 40% that is lacking.
i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.
generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.
certainly no political point scoring.
Cofty-Stop being so bloody hysterical.
That is the difference, in my opinion. The level of hysteria.
US Headline - Boris Johnson on his last breath is rushed to an IC unit fighting for his life while Trump aims to send all American stock piles of PPE to Britain to help the Prime Minister, leaving Americans to fend for themselves.
UK Headline- Boris Johnson has been admitted to the IC unit 7 days after testing positive for coronavirus. US President Trump offers help if needed.
That is how I see the difference.
Sure there are sensational headlines in the UK but nowhere near like the US.
i’m just curious to know the local attendance figures for the memorial.
my father told me they had an attendance of 140. not flattering for a cong of 100 pubs.
i was sort of surprised at this considering the quarantine measures and everyone being forced to stay at home.
Didn't the jw site have the complete recorded memorial talk for many countries..... I just checked and its still up.
So cant they count the number of times anyone clicked on it as a "count" in addition to whatever the elders give?
Looks like they will be able to, like others have said "just make it up". Also I can see many of the jws listening to it dozens of times online. If they count the number of times for each 'watch" or 'click' then it should drive the numbers up.
Not sure if they can do this but seems like they could.
we are now well aware of the shit storm this virus has caused pretty much all over the world but there is going to come a time in the near future when it wont be such a heady news worthy concern.
the reason being is that there are numerous clinical institutions in many countries that are now working on a vaccine, more so than any other deadly contagious virus in human history.. when mankind puts its brain on things usually come of it.
when documented cases start to decline to a certain point governments will start to reduce their imposed restrictions availing people to get back to work, stores reopening , economies cranking up as they once were, normalcy will return.. it will no doubt be a slow restart but the vigor of capitalism will eventually return and this event will be left as a documented event in human history.. i do hope governments will take note of how this virus got started and spread as it did.. a sole person perhaps selling live and dead wild animals in a open public market in wuhan china , astonishing to think what that one person did to effect the entire human population of 8 billion all over the world.
I thought of one.
I'm thinking hospitals will be making sure they have ventilators, face masks and other things that they are running out of. With any luck higher pay for the medical community too. As many are simply quitting because the chump change isn't worth the price they are paying.
we are now well aware of the shit storm this virus has caused pretty much all over the world but there is going to come a time in the near future when it wont be such a heady news worthy concern.
the reason being is that there are numerous clinical institutions in many countries that are now working on a vaccine, more so than any other deadly contagious virus in human history.. when mankind puts its brain on things usually come of it.
when documented cases start to decline to a certain point governments will start to reduce their imposed restrictions availing people to get back to work, stores reopening , economies cranking up as they once were, normalcy will return.. it will no doubt be a slow restart but the vigor of capitalism will eventually return and this event will be left as a documented event in human history.. i do hope governments will take note of how this virus got started and spread as it did.. a sole person perhaps selling live and dead wild animals in a open public market in wuhan china , astonishing to think what that one person did to effect the entire human population of 8 billion all over the world.
Have the governments learned anything from prior failures/ or crisis's? I don't see it.
Have the people? Some perhaps, but when the governments stomp people down making them feel unheard or just pass a sweeping law/laws, then people dig in into the ole' handheld entertainment and create their own fantasy world to escape.
I don't see that stopping.
Fink, I feel your intentions are good and in a Utopian society this would be seem to be lovely. I'm just not sure its reality. And that sucks, because I agree with the premise. And I think its good to try and find something positive about this pandemic.
I think change will/could happen one person at a time that impacts them or their family directly. Like it always has.
i support local and state and federal government’s power to safeguard the public.
i wonder is it getting to a point where we will be told we can’t go out anymore, can’t use your phone or computer anymore because of the viruses that we can get, etc.
are we prolonging this virus at all ?
We have rights? Since birth we all have been told by our governments and local authorities (often conflicting) what we can and can't do. It becomes ingrained and we are made to be sheep.
Right now we can,maybe over half of the time say what we want on the internet, but try it in real time to someones face and see how far that takes you.
People get arrested everyday for something they posted on the internet that they would never actually do.
As far as this pandemic who are the top profiteers right now? Hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, Tech, just to name a few...All of which we are forced to give our information and or our data to. Which is sold over an over again.( yes hospitals sell data) Don't agree, just let a bill slip by accident and they will give it to every unethical creditor they can find. And there are many loopholes that let third parties collect hospital data whether we agree to it or not despite what they say.
Another example, I have an app that I can use to help pay some things if I do surveys. Do you want to know what kind of information they ask for so I can make 50cents? All of it. If I don't fit into what they WANT TO HEAR they boot me off and I don't get paid. This will piss some of you right off as it did me, but if I don't say that I don't like the certain people running for office , the surveys are immediately stopped. Every survey asks about Covid and politics ( and other things I wont mention)even if its a fricking Pepsi product. So I lie my ass off if I want to be paid.
The question could be "Do you think your rights are further being trampled on, since the Covid pandemic?"
Our rights have been flying out the window for many years. A slow drip. Yet another reason I personally like living completely off the grid. Here's another example. Before the 2008 recession in the community I lived we would have contest to see who could build "Tiny Homes" for the cheapest. Under 2,000 was achieved easily. All day long. Then with many losing their homes then, guess what became mainstream, "Tiny Homes". Remember the first shows about it? They were in the price of 25-40,000 range? Then it shot up to 250,000 for a flipping "Tiny Home" in a few years after that? Then the people that were doing this prior, to help themselves and low income people were price out and local, federal and state jurisdictions hammered down hard on the little people , the very ones who created a solution. So yeah, that took rights away. Libs, dems and repubs all cashing in.
I cant even begin to start on our rights or lack there of being trampled on (taken away). For instance, homesteading act ended in 1976. One rancher had the shear nerve to say to me in 2009 that he "doesnt understand what is wrong with the youth, that he came a laid stake to the 400 acres he has and raised cattle and is now set for life." I quickly reminded him that he "homesteaded his land" BEFORE 1976 when it was legal and that he was an uneducated, lucky, pompous jerk. He backed down. And he got schooled by a 'youngster' that wanted to do the same thing he did but its illegal now.
What rights? We do as we are told.
