over a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.
having given it some thought, this is my view;.
the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.
When I was much younger (and 'in'), I thought it meant that Satan took over their (apostates) mind and controlled them directly through the demons. Basically like the exorcist. LOL. That is literally what I thought back then.
Now Of Course not.
Resolute Bandicoot said-Jesus was an apostate from Judaism, It is name calling for somebody who does not agree with your big idea.
^^^^This^^^^ Pretty much sums it up.
article today, "i pretended it didn't happen": nuns report abuse by priests.
by nicole winfield and rodney muttumuza__associated press.
i always heard stories about the nuns but holy crap, it's bad.nuns were considered "safe" sexual partners for priests (africa and aids) who feared they might be infected with hiv if they went to prostitutes.
Forgive me.LOL
i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.
not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.
however i didn't lose my children.
@ newboy -I have forgiving my messed up parents for the bull shit they handed down to me. My son was in it for only 21 years and me over 50.
But your right I do need to apologize to him.
As they say "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Funny isn't it how we all want some slack cut for ourselves but justice for everyone else.
My son is 24. I was 16 when he was born and I was a jw. He just vocalized a year ago that he doesn't care about me.There was much hate in his message and it crushed me. But does not know me(long story). I guess I dont know him either.
However what you just said and this whole thread makes me feel like I will apologize to him in a way I never have before, if I can get a hold of him. He was my world from when he was born to age 6 after the divorce. I was broken . The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions. ( Never before has that statement meant as much to me as it does right now) I have been frozen in my own trauma that I have overlooked his feelings on some things. How sad. Sigh , at long last I see what I need to do with my own situation. However he takes it will be his own process and however hard it might be for me to swallow it, I must honor that it is his process. I now know I am not alone. This gives me some small measure of comfort. My situation is very different , but it broke lose crystallization in my ways of thinking Ive been holding on to.
I wish you the best in your journey and wanted you to know that I appreciate you posting this.
I wish for anyone going thru this to not blame themselves to the point that you make yourself out to be a horrible person.
Caves
one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.
now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.
i was raised into it.
Even as a jw I never believed in life forever on earth. I always knew I would die and so would everyone else.
It may be the only part of me that stayed in the "reality of things", while in.
I figured my energy would disperse into the things around it after death.
I do believe that energy can get "trapped" so to speak after death, but that leads to a different topic.
trump’s state department is having all sorts of religions and groups from around the world meet for discussions on how to insure that they have freedoms.. i wonder if jehovah’s witnesses will be there..
Trump and Pence family attending meeting at kingdom hall posted April 30 2017. (interesting) Pardon if posted before.
"WASHINGTON, United States – President Donald Trump and Vice President, Mike Pence made a surprise appearance at a kingdom hall of Jehovah’s witnesses in Washington on Thursday, during the Christian Life and Ministry programme."
Edit: this appears to be fake. ???
trump’s state department is having all sorts of religions and groups from around the world meet for discussions on how to insure that they have freedoms.. i wonder if jehovah’s witnesses will be there..
Mike Pence's speech at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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I have followed this DJ for over 20 years. Hes awesome. These two animated vids tell a story. Episode 1 and 2.
My mind finds this a great fantasy place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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More Lana, <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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@Finkelstein- I like Lola
Lana Del Ray-Summertime Sadness -tech version (shes so pretty to me)
