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  young ones try and be friends with older ones

  by Akid48 in

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  know before i say anything the title might make go like ''what?are you going to say that its bad for a younger person to be friends with a older one'' no not at all i think its a good thing that a kid should have at least one older person they are friends with.. now,i dont think young people should not try and talk to some one older than them or become friends like i said.but to me it seems more like a cover up for the watchtower because a lot of young people when they can most will likey want to get out and leave.now to me all the time when i see a congregation there are more older people than younger.young people mostly want to have a friends there age,but that's hard most family's say ''we dont want to have kids in this system.

  ''which leaves a low amount of kids in a congregation.. what i'm saying here is that not all congregations have 12,13,16,5,6 year old kids so kids that age dont have many friends to start out with.

  so i see the hole thing on making friends with older ones and you should be talking to older ones more as a cover up to that problem.. i might be wrong about this hole thing but i wanted to talk about,as some one who cant really have friends because there is no one my age i could really talk to..

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  Personally I love talking with people older than me. Most all the friends Ive had were people older than me.

  Jw or not I think having older friends is good advice.

  I know having had younger friends I felt younger. lol

  Having older friends made me realize, they to, went through a lot of the same stuff I had.

  At the end of the day age is really a number. I have met 60 year olds that were as immature as a teen. (but not in a good way) I have met younger folks that were more mature than someone twice there age.

  Having older friends is not just a jw taught thing, its a human connection thing.

  Jws do mix basic psychology, with there teachings. Its one of the 'hooks' as they bundle it up with crap.

  Also I wanted to add that young people do need to have others around there age to chat with. But when you hit around 30+ that might change a bit.
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  Don't even try it!

  by JTrottigy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are many here who think they can infiltrate my web-site.

  be warned that we administrators of jwtalk call the listed congregation on your application for membership in our site to verify if they know you!.

  some of you have slipped through the cracks and got into our site, but rest assured, we will find you out and ban you!.

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  Independent reading of Bible results in better understanding

  by Ireneus in

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  2. bible

  in guided reading, you tend to get the understanding of the guide.

  what if guide is blind?

  religious leaders who understand ‘one innocent man should be killed to atone the sins of others are in bondage to darkness, hence there is nothing good to be expected from them.

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  @punkofnice-

  Exactly!
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  Apostate - what does the word mean to you?

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.

  having given it some thought, this is my view;.

  the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.

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  When I was much younger (and 'in'), I thought it meant that Satan took over their (apostates) mind and controlled them directly through the demons. Basically like the exorcist. LOL. That is literally what I thought back then.

  Now Of Course not.

  Resolute Bandicoot said-Jesus was an apostate from Judaism, It is name calling for somebody who does not agree with your big idea.

  ^^^^This^^^^ Pretty much sums it up.
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  Nuns report abuse by Priests. Holy moly.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  article today, "i pretended it didn't happen": nuns report abuse by priests.

  by nicole winfield and rodney muttumuza__associated press.

  i always heard stories about the nuns but holy crap, it's bad.nuns were considered "safe" sexual partners for priests (africa and aids) who feared they might be infected with hiv if they went to prostitutes.

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  Forgive me.LOL

  https://youtu.be/zXT_IOt81Xs
  
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  @ newboy -I have forgiving my messed up parents for the bull shit they handed down to me. My son was in it for only 21 years and me over 50.

  But your right I do need to apologize to him.

  As they say "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

  Funny isn't it how we all want some slack cut for ourselves but justice for everyone else.

  My son is 24. I was 16 when he was born and I was a jw. He just vocalized a year ago that he doesn't care about me.There was much hate in his message and it crushed me. But does not know me(long story). I guess I dont know him either.

  However what you just said and this whole thread makes me feel like I will apologize to him in a way I never have before, if I can get a hold of him. He was my world from when he was born to age 6 after the divorce. I was broken . The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions. ( Never before has that statement meant as much to me as it does right now) I have been frozen in my own trauma that I have overlooked his feelings on some things. How sad. Sigh , at long last I see what I need to do with my own situation. However he takes it will be his own process and however hard it might be for me to swallow it, I must honor that it is his process. I now know I am not alone. This gives me some small measure of comfort. My situation is very different , but it broke lose crystallization in my ways of thinking Ive been holding on to.

  I wish you the best in your journey and wanted you to know that I appreciate you posting this.

  I wish for anyone going thru this to not blame themselves to the point that you make yourself out to be a horrible person.

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  Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

  now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

  i was raised into it.

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  Even as a jw I never believed in life forever on earth. I always knew I would die and so would everyone else.

  It may be the only part of me that stayed in the "reality of things", while in.

  I figured my energy would disperse into the things around it after death.

  I do believe that energy can get "trapped" so to speak after death, but that leads to a different topic.
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  Ministerial to Advance Religious Freedom

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  trump’s state department is having all sorts of religions and groups from around the world meet for discussions on how to insure that they have freedoms.. i wonder if jehovah’s witnesses will be there..

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  Trump and Pence family attending meeting at kingdom hall posted April 30 2017. (interesting) Pardon if posted before.

  "WASHINGTON, United States – President Donald Trump and Vice President, Mike Pence made a surprise appearance at a kingdom hall of Jehovah’s witnesses in Washington on Thursday, during the Christian Life and Ministry programme."

  https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/35842-russia%E2%80%99s-ban-trump-pence-attend-meeting-of-jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-in-us/

  Edit: this appears to be fake. ???
  
  
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  Ministerial to Advance Religious Freedom

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  trump’s state department is having all sorts of religions and groups from around the world meet for discussions on how to insure that they have freedoms.. i wonder if jehovah’s witnesses will be there..

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  Mike Pence's speech at

  Ministerial To Advance Religious Freedom

  LAW & JUSTICE

  Issued on: July 26, 2018

  https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-vice-president-pence-ministerial-advance-religious-freedom/
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  What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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  https://youtu.be/ZCpdNVikijM