What does the rev mean Rev?
Bang
It means "Reverend"
I became a Baptist minister just under a year after I left the b'ORG (July 1974)
If you look closely, in the picture in the profile I am wearing a Roman ("turned around") collar
'cause we are the only ones who know the real deal, baby!
and the sooner you realize that the better off you'll be .
4 consider, too, the fact that jehovahs organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by gods holy spirit or active force.
What does the rev mean Rev?
Bang
It means "Reverend"
I became a Baptist minister just under a year after I left the b'ORG (July 1974)
If you look closely, in the picture in the profile I am wearing a Roman ("turned around") collar
i believe that queenie is still posting using the names hildabingen and mystikool.. has any one else noticed the similarities?
Naah, none of the above.
Queenie is QUEENIE
Mama of Mamie the apostate cat.
She's been a friend for more than a year, and I can tell you she ain't neither of the above.
I suspect her little webtv is probably goin' through emotional overload -- since her "mailing list" grows by leaps and bounds every time she opens a new e-mail (she always uses the "copy all," so she gets a bunch of new names with every pass:
She's been around some of the other boards the past few days. But she was saying on one post that she had more mails than she could keep up with. She'll be back afore long -- betcha.
Keep the Faith
RAY
sorry i can't be with you next friday, but my prayers are with you.
a friend of mine on another list made a suggestion that i thought was worth passing along.
i'll let him speak for himself:.
Are you serious? With what we have technologically at our fingertips today, what are you all so worried about? You do not need Dateline to film this. . .Now, I don't want to read anymore negative posts stating that there is no way to get this JOB done. There are many. Get to work boys!!
MANY WT KIDS (silentlambs) NEED TO 'WITNESS' THIS EVENT...
Case in point:
http://www.thespystore.com/covertwirelessvideo.htm
Keep the Faith
RAY
sorry i can't be with you next friday, but my prayers are with you.
a friend of mine on another list made a suggestion that i thought was worth passing along.
i'll let him speak for himself:.
Point taken
'cause we are the only ones who know the real deal, baby!
and the sooner you realize that the better off you'll be .
4 consider, too, the fact that jehovahs organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by gods holy spirit or active force.
Anyone ever tell you, you look like the dad on "Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire"?
Nope!
Barry White
Rev. Al Sharpton
Rance Allen (Gospel artist)
I guess it would be a natural progression, though, since he's Reginald Vel Johnson
I always thought I looked like this:
BTW, I've been meaning to ask you to take a look at the revision of my Bible Students' article http://xjw-central.com/bsprofile.html
When I changed my ISP I figured it was a good time to get rid of all the letters I got from different B. Students, and consolidate the information into a new article.
Let me know what you think.
If you'd prefer to respond privately you can reach me at [email protected]
'cause we are the only ones who know the real deal, baby!
and the sooner you realize that the better off you'll be .
4 consider, too, the fact that jehovahs organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by gods holy spirit or active force.
'CAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO KNOW THE REAL DEAL, BABY! And the sooner you realize that the better off you'll be
4 Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or active force. (Zech. 4:6) Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book. Many persons of the world are very intelligent, capable of understanding complex matters. They can read the Holy Scriptures, but they cannot understand their deep meaning. Yet God’s people can comprehend such spiritual things. Why? Not because of special intelligence on their part, but as the apostle Paul declared: “For it is to us God has revealed them through his spirit, for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.” (1 Cor. 2:10) Jesus Christ praised his heavenly Father for ‘hiding such things from the wise and intellectual ones but revealing them to babes.’ (Matt. 11:25) How very much true Christians appreciate associating with the only organization on earth that understands the “deep things of God”! w73 7/1 402 italics mineQuestions From Readers
Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses decline to exchange their Bible study aids for the religious literature of people they meet?
So Witnesses do not go to people’s doors searching for truth or enlightenment. Rather, they already have devoted countless hours learning the truth from God’s Word and, having taken in the “good news,” they are obediently going forth to share it.Many people who believe that ‘there is good in all religions’ might consider it narrow-minded to think otherwise. (Contrast Jesus’ view expressed at Matthew 7:13, 14, 21-23.) … Jehovah’s Witnesses are not ignorant of others’ beliefs. They have gained considerable basic knowledge of the doctrinal beliefs of religions common in their area. Consideration to such teachings has been given in the book What Has Religion Done for Mankind? as well as numerous articles in The Watchtower and Awake! Such information on various religions is presented in the context of its contrast with accurate Biblical teachings.
God’s Word warns Christians that “Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.” (2 Corinthians 11:14, 15) Satan so successfully appeared as “an angel of light” that he was able to deceive even a perfect human, Eve. (1 Timothy 2:14) So it would be foolhardy, as well as a waste of valuable time, for Jehovah’s Witnesses to accept and expose themselves to false religious literature that is designed to deceive. They have no intention of falling into the sad course of the Jews, whom Paul said “exchanged the truth of God for the lie.”—Romans 1:25, NW; Revised Standard Version.
Furthermore, some of the religious literature that people may urge Jehovah’s Witnesses to read is written by, or contains the thoughts of, individuals who have apostatized. True Christians are commanded to shun such apostates. (2 John 9-11; Titus 3:10, 11) Appropriately, then, The Watchtower of June 15, 1983, counseled:
“In the first century, Hymenaeus and Philetus turned apostate and tried to subvert the faith of others. God’s standard was: ‘Shun such empty speeches that violate what is holy.’ (2 Timothy 2:16-19) Christians holding to that standard would not have been interested in listening to apostates, nor in obtaining any poisonous writings that these might distribute ‘for the sake of dishonest gain.’ Why finance their wickedness by buying their literature? (Titus 1:11) As loyal Christians let us hold to God’s standards, feeding our minds on what is true and righteous, and holding appreciatively and loyally to the channel from which we first learned Bible truth.—Compare 1 Timothy 4:16.”—Page 15.
Hence, it is out of wisdom and respect for God’s counsel that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not make a practice of exchanging valuable Bible study aids containing Scriptural truth for religious literature that disseminates error or apostate views. w84 5/1 31
True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end of the world" even announcing a specific date. Some have gathered groups of people with them and fled to the hills or withdrawn into their homes waiting for the end. Yet, nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?
Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfilment of Bible prophecy. Missing from such people was God's truths and evidence that he was guiding them . . . But what about today? Today we have the evidence required, all of it. And it is overwhelming! All the many, many parts of the great sign of the last days are here, together with verifying Bible chronology [Awake Oct. 8, 1968, 23]
Keep the Faith
RAY
sorry i can't be with you next friday, but my prayers are with you.
a friend of mine on another list made a suggestion that i thought was worth passing along.
i'll let him speak for himself:.
Sorry I can't be with you next Friday, but my prayers are with you.
A friend of mine on another list made a suggestion that I thought was worth passing along. I'll let him speak for himself:
From: "Quentin Watson" < [email protected]>
Date: Thu May 16, 2002 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: [xjw-central] Will You Miss This History Making Event?
Somebody please tell Bill Bowen to talk with Dateline and get a small
camera so that it can be recorded.The ENTIRE COMMITTEE MEETING NEEDS TO BE RECORDED! We know exactly what
they are going to try to do him. They are going to try to crucify him.
Which is totally not correct. He had a right to speak out about what
bothered his conscious in an organization that he believed in and strong
participated in.Please, please, please tell him to contact Dateline and ask for that
recorder.Bill, if you simply need someone to talk with, please contact me at
404-759-1333.Quentin (Watson)
Keep the Faith
RAY
another question.. this one is for all those that began doubting the organisation when they were an obedient jw.. although i am sure you rarely shared it with anyone, what was the one problem you had with a certain jw only doctrine?.
what i mean is, what little gremlins lurked at the back of your mind?
what were the doubts that you kept hidden and what made you finally act on them?.
My mother and sister came to visit me for the summer district assembly; and stayed in the home of a special pioneer lady. I was going through marital troubles at the time, and this lady -- who'd never met me -- spent the whole time assassinating my character to my mother.
I thought to myself "these people are supposed to be the world's examples of how to show love to one another -- and right about not I don't feel very much loved.
That was the stuff that broke the bond (After all, I'd left and come back twice when I was in my teens). But even with that I still attended the first day and a half of the assembly.
What caused me to leave was that I suddenly had my eyes open that what I was listening to that afternoon was the same tripe that I'd heard over, and over, and over, and over , and over, and over again.
So on the second day of the convention - unemployed and estranged from my wife - my thoughts were heavy on the unfairness and unkindness of the Special Pioneer woman and of Jehovah's Witnesses, in general. I walked into the Gator Bowl so late that I could not get a seat inside the stadium. In fact the organizers had lined the corridors with chairs, and I ended up with a seat so far back that I couldn't even see inside. Didn't matter, I was really troubled about being there, in the first place.Keep the FaithAt 2:00 p.m. a new speaker took the stand to give a "Talk". (the Society's name for the lecture/sermons given from the pulpit by "mature brothers" - usually elders) I don't remember the subject of the talk, but right in the middle a mental image popped into me head, accompanied by a "still, small voice." The image was of a hand extending from heaven holding a small plate out to me (my immediate thought went to Acts 10 when God lowered a sheet down in front of the Apostle Peter and commanded him, "Rise and eat"). On the plate was what appeared to be a half of a standard can of tuna: no dressing, no lettuce, no bread, just TUNA!And not much of it
The voice said, in essence "rise and eat," but also that "You are not being fed! This is the same stuff you've been hearing all of your life, just rehashed over and over again. Get out of here, before you starve to death!" I got up, picked up my briefcase, walked out of the stadium. I have never looked back..
Excerpt from "My Calling Sure" -- a chapter in From Kingdom Hall to Kingdom Callhttp://www.revdrjohnson.com/out.html
how is it that heaven came to be in the sky?
the hebrew word for heaven can mean "the abode of god" or "the sky, atmosphere, etc".
the bible has hundreds of references to heaven being up in the sky.. is it a carryover from pagan religions which had gods for the sun, moon, stars, etc...?
Aside from the fact that Genesis 1:8 says
And God called the expanse, Heavens.
"up' is probably more allegorical than practical.
Where else could heaven be, if not up? Down? Down where?
Don't lose sight of the fact that w believe "heaven" and the "presence of God" to be a Spiritual not physical condition/state of being -- and therefore to be outside the dimensions of time and space. So spatial references like up, down, here, there, are -- again -- purely allegorical: just like God's "hands," "eyes," "feet," "back,"or spirit "moving" across the water
Keep the Faith
RAY
it seems that there is much anger on this place.
in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.
if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.
I suspect the REAL potential terrorists are the frustrated active JWs, who haven't figured out yet how to esacpe!
Keep the Faith
RAY