Posts by RevMalk

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APOSTACY IS WORKING

by hamptonite21 in

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friends

two weeks ago all sunday meetings were cancelled in the shirley area here on longisland ny.

a elder meeting was held with the co. my aunt a jdub has informed me that all 4 congregations have had over 7 disfellowshippings in the past month and about 2 dozen since the beginning of the year.

it seems that many of the youth are having sex and allowed to do what ever they want.

RevMalk

Cool, maybe they should all follow their lead.
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

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No Questions, No Answers!

by bjc2012 in

the road to god's "truth", divine truth, is the same.

it takes real, real "effort" before truth, divine truth can be achieved.

and therefore, they could not give it to us, this divine truth.

RevMalk

Yuk, it's like Church in here.
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

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Official Sign up for Xmas Gift Exchange! LOOK!

by scootergirl in

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friends

some of you may have seen my previous thread regarding a secret gift exchange for the upcoming holiday season.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37180&site=3&page=1

so here it is......the official sign up!

RevMalk

Hey, You're doing good here!
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

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help! my son is going to the th. night meeting...

by kaykay_mp in

...with my mom!

a) grab his left arm tightly while my mom grabs his right arm, with me saying, "over my dead body!"?.

b) not even care, since i would like one evening without hearing, "mine!

RevMalk

no
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

Edited by - RevMalk on 17 October 2002 17:14:3

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Mormons ELECT their ELDERS

by refiners fire in

"relief society study guide.

" 1989 version.

article: "by common consent".

Well, like I said. I'm not here to argue Mormonism, nor to defend it. I don't believe the Bible is correct. There's so much proof that it's been adulterated. How can I put faith in it? Was it protected by God? NO. Was it saved by God? NO. Was it written by God? NO. Ok, so where does that lead us? Only our hearts and faith in Christ can lead us.
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

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Is there anyone close by???

by kelpie in

i have only just registered at this forum and i would like to know if there are any ex jw's that live in or close to canberra, australia.. i have been shunned by all family and friends because i left the organisation (not disfellowshipped at this stage but won't be long) and i finding it hard to cope with.

i am sorry to be down but i miss all my family and friends and would love to make new friends that know what i am going through.

my boyfriend is very understanding but gets frustrated as he doesn't know why my family are doing this to me.. this sounds like a whingy post but i promise you, i am not normally like this.

RevMalk

no
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

Edited by - RevMalk on 16 October 2002 20:1:43

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Bible: Women are Inferior

by JosephAlward in

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friends

no teaching in the bible is clearer and more consistent than the one which holds women to be inferior to men.

below i show that it is taught that the woman was created from man, for man, that man--not woman--is the glory of god, and that women are not allowed to teach or control man because the woman, not the man, is the one who was deceived by the serpent.

" (1 corinthians 11:2-9) "for a man...is the image and glory of god: but the woman is the glory of the man.

RevMalk

Don't hold much stock in what the Bible says. Not only was it written by men for men, it was also adulterated through the ages by other men. Half the Bible is missing, and the half that's there is destroyed. Women hold more power than we'll ever have. They have us all in line, don't be fooled.
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author

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Mormons ELECT their ELDERS

by refiners fire in

"relief society study guide.

" 1989 version.

article: "by common consent".

RevMalk

JosephMalik:
I know our Lord selected 12 apostles. And I know that he accepted disciples to follow him. But I never read where He appointed Elders or established an official position in the faith for any disciple that we can call Elder.
The problem with this statement is that you're trying to tie the hands of God and Bind him by the History contained in 66 small books. History that of course is limited as to detail. The Bible never spoke of the name of Jesus either, until the old Testament, and he was refused by the Jews. Ok, so it spoke of the messiah, but it never spoke of him having a bowel movement, and I'd bet my life that he did. But since the Bible doesn't speak of it, I should hold it in? My point is that we can't decide when and if and why God would appoint someone for a special purpose, or when and if and why God would re-instate a particular 'policy' or 'procedure'. Besides the fact that the Bible is in no way pure, and hasn't been for a long long time, so how do we really know what it says? If one thing can be changed, so can alot more. I am NOT a Mormon, and probably never will be. My point is just that IMO, they're the 'closest' to the truth, or I should say the closest 'fit' in this day. Does that make them the truth, absolutely not......but you never know for sure.
JosephMalik:
When Paul died we lost the use of his hands. No other apostle appointed Elders to represent them. None. This was Paul's ministry and such appointments ended with him.
God has many times 'ended' certain procedures, and then later on re-instated them. I think there's not many that will argue the fact we are in the last days, or pretty close anyway. If ever there were a time for re-instating miracles and prophecies, and apostles, and what have you, I think it's now, or in the near future. But again, how do I know? It's just my opinion. And again, the Bible is all messed up, who knows what it really says or means?
JosephMalik:
So how is it that we have such Elders today. Paul is dead. We no longer have use of his hands or any person authorized by him to do this work? What is going on here?
IF the Mormons are correct, that was re-instated with Joseph Smith. The Book of Mormon would be our modern day guide, and we'd have these miracles, prophecies and Apostles. Again, I'm not saying it's true, but if we KNEW for a fact that Jesus Church has been re-instated, then it would seem feasible that this is exactly how God would do it. New Prophets, new writings, new Apostles, etc etc etc. Every other time in History that something great was about to happen pertaining to God, this is how it was done. Why, with the most important Historical event since Adam, would things be different now?
You could be right Refiners, I won't argue the point. The only thing is, I'm aware of this possibility, and that's one reason why I didn't go through with Baptism. The problem is, however, what if they're right? What if they are the Truth, and I walked away because I got cold feet? Wow, judgment day is going to REALLY suck for me! Haha, I've been studying the LDS History since 1986, I've gone back and forth, spent countless hours researching. The thing is, 90% of what they teach is what I already learned through studies on my own, and through Prayer. The other 10%? Well, that's what I got hung up on. See, I think if this were a case of "crisis conversion" I wouldn't have gone through so much detail "making sure", and I probably wouldn't have gotten hung up on the 10%. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm humble, and I know I'm not perfect.
I must admit, part of the "10%" was based on Joseph. I am leery of him, but I am of anyone who claims such things. I don't know anything about him sleeping with other men's wives, but I do know that he had several wives, so did Brigham Young and all the rest up until the 1800's. That alone doesn't bother me, God has allowed this in the past. What does bother me though is the similarities between the Free Masonry Ceremonies, and the Mormon Temple Ceremonies. That's when I stopped everything. Everything else I found, which may not be all of it didn't bother me. The so called false prophecies, the Book of Mormon, the first vision discrepancies. They can all be rationalized, and I suppose the ceremonies could too, but that was the last straw. As for the Book of Mormon, the guy was in his early 20's tops, he could not have written the book on his own. It was definitely inspired by a greater power. Trouble is, who was this power?
One thing that caught my attention in the first place to Mormonism, was the fact that if they're not true, then we have several men who are out and out liars. The Apostles would not only have to be wrong, but they're have to be liars. Not like Pastor Russell, I believe 100% that at some point anyway, he really believed in himself. With the Mormons, they claim to speak with God.....so if they're not true, than every one of them are lying, and not once has any Church Apostle/Prophet come back to claim it wasn't true. Some have fallen, but even still, never claimed it was wrong. Is this possible that for almost 200 years all these men could go on with this lie and never once did it come out? I don't know.....perhaps, perhaps not. So, I'm still here, in Square on this subject.
A knaves religion is always the rottenest thing about him." John Ruskin, 19th-century British critic and author