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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Elena

  If he is lying or not all this is a good advert for magic mushrooms for anyone thinking about leaving a cult.
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  Why are the 2 newly appointed Governing Body Members from Bethel, when there are anointed ones all over the world? they could have used.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  library.

  books & brochures.

  enjoy life forever!—an interactive bible course.

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  When you see them with their wives it’s very discouraging how young they are.

  We were discouraged when the last lot of GB members were added at Tony Morris time.

  We were taught these would be the last ones and they are getting old so not much longer left now
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  Changed behavior of the governing body on the topic of “vaccinations” in the Covid era

  by Pedro in

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  i'm looking for an explanation why the gb has made a radical change on the issue of vaccinations.

  was there pressure from outside?

  were there any financial or other benefits to promoting experimental genetic therapy?.

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  It’s as clear as day, the GB are not Jehovah’s spokesmen on Earth. Follow directions from the GB is not safe. From now on more and more JWs will question the direction to be fully vaccinated as these vaccines are not safe as Steve Lett said they were. He said “this information is from our brothers!” Yes that is true Steven Lett but it’s not from Jehovah if he even exists.
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  Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself

  by TheScientist in

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  this topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.

  many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.

  in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".

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  I suspect there are still lots of older ones donating their pensions but not many younger ones will. It doesn’t look good for the future. A combination of cost of living crisis and younger ones don’t believe the lies passed down.
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  BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?

  by Black Man in

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  i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.

  while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).

  a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.

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  Elena

  I remember Ron and Barbra Drage, they were CO are they still alive?

  I wonder if you ask ones that long in the truth if they still believe the generation from 1914 will be no means pass away?
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  Changed behavior of the governing body on the topic of “vaccinations” in the Covid era

  by Pedro in

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  i'm looking for an explanation why the gb has made a radical change on the issue of vaccinations.

  was there pressure from outside?

  were there any financial or other benefits to promoting experimental genetic therapy?.

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  Elena

  I’m a several generations born in JW. My great grandparents and even one great great grandparent was in for the last few years of her life.

  I grew up hearing the old way, pioneering with hundred hours a month. They lived through 1975 and stayed in because they thought it really won’t be too much longer. OK the governing body was wrong about 1975 but they are not wrong about 1914, this generation who remember 1914 will not pass away.

  Then the 1980s came and went and then the 1990s the millions living around 1914 had nearly all proved the never dying promise a false promise.

  They had to come up with something so the overlapping new light brought them some time.

  Now even with this new light we have gotten to far away from 1914 it’s now 2024 for heaven’s sake.

  All the Watchtowers keep saying Jehovah has shown so much patience now all these new ones have been born who can learn the truth. This doesn’t make any sense unless you are a fucking idiot.

  There will be millions more born every year should Jehovah be more patient forever? This is so stupid it’s insulting the intelligence of ever JW who reads that WT article.

  Once the covid updates stated their political stance on vaccines and made it clear they were not neutral on this issue a lot of people began to wake up.

  It is a political issue, and the GB were not neutral
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  Changed behavior of the governing body on the topic of “vaccinations” in the Covid era

  by Pedro in

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  2. scandals

  i'm looking for an explanation why the gb has made a radical change on the issue of vaccinations.

  was there pressure from outside?

  were there any financial or other benefits to promoting experimental genetic therapy?.

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  Free orange this is the only thing, the covid updates caused division in the congregations. They should have stayed neutral but they didn’t.

  Another local brother just died suddenly after about his 7th booster shot. He left a widow and a couple of kids. Everyone asks why did a young healthy father just die suddenly? All we know is blood clot and died. That’s it.

  His son is now a fatherless boy. The governing body needs to do a U turn on covid boosters like they did for beards ASAP
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  Further education

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  i just saw on a video that there has been a change about further education.

  here is a screenshot of a letter that went to all elders.

  i am an elder but i don’t remember this one, perhaps it is only for some areas?.

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  Elena

  Is this letter saying advanced education is ok really legit?
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  Changed behavior of the governing body on the topic of “vaccinations” in the Covid era

  by Pedro in

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  2. scandals

  i'm looking for an explanation why the gb has made a radical change on the issue of vaccinations.

  was there pressure from outside?

  were there any financial or other benefits to promoting experimental genetic therapy?.

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  Elena

  The governing body should not have been so forceful with the fully vaccinated direction. So many JWs would not have got fully vaccinated if it wasn’t for the covid updates telling to go get vaccinated

  We have woken up as well, it was the vaccine that did it for us. I wish we didn’t listen and follow that direction.

  There are a few here who do not want to stay fully vaccinated but they just can’t consider the fact that the GB could be wrong about the vaccine so they keep getting their boosters
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  My decision.

  by MissDaSilva in

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  i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.

  i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.

  amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.

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  Elena

  We have woken up as well, it was the vaccine that did it for us. I wish we didn’t listen and follow that direction.

  There are a few here who do not want to stay fully vaccinated but they just can’t consider the fact that the GB could be wrong about the vaccine so they keep getting their boosters