Lloyd released a long long video about the worst videos of last year, then the update came out and he rushed a short response to it
so hardly anyone will watch his long long video because it’s already old news
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Lloyd released a long long video about the worst videos of last year, then the update came out and he rushed a short response to it
so hardly anyone will watch his long long video because it’s already old news
things are changing so rapidly.
there is so much confusion now.. if we can talk to disfellowshiped/disassociated ones to invite them to meetings then is it really going to stop there?.
some family members haven’t had contact for decades and now after yesterdays new light they will all be getting calls.
Things are changing so rapidly. There is so much confusion now.
If we can talk to disfellowshiped/disassociated ones to invite them to meetings then is it really going to stop there?
Some family members haven’t had contact for decades and now after yesterdays new light they will all be getting calls
i know they're panicking and trying to gain favor with governments, former members, prospective converts & those who are teetering, all for financial worries.
still, the latest update in some ways made things worse, and if there's any jws watching it who are beginning to wake up it should be very disturbing.. starting with dress codes: they say that suits, ties & skirts are no longer required, but in so doing they admit that they were required, something not often appearing as an explicit command in print.
(similar to how lett referred to the "policy on beards" in his video, even though this direct policy wasn't made available to rank and file.
Can brothers wear jumpers? Or any smart tops
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
Elders now meet with all disfellowshipped every six months.
They are begging people to come back because the numbers are falling so much.
The slackening off of shunning rules means hardly anyone will be disfellowshipped anymore. They will overlook young ones who slip up and envying sun as long as they say they are sorry.
And they are begging all who have left the Borg to come back
i know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.
she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.
she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.
According to the confidential elders’ manual “Shepherding the Flock of God”, that sentiment would technically constitute “apostasy”.
Even expressing doubts that someone wishes they didn’t take so many of these vaccines as they have been bad for your health, that is doubting the GB direction? But many are indeed doing this
if the faithful evil slave says it, it must be true!.
w78 8/15 p. 31 - "accordingly, the present period is the conclusion of the entire wicked system of things, which will be climaxed by a “tribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation.”....in fact, it will even be greater than the flood of noah’s time when the entire “world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.”.
The new light is now that not only JWs but possibly many others will make it through but can’t be dogmatic we just dont know
just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.
my gut instinct is: "no".
i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.
i recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.
we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.
i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.
But, as a ‘brother’, you were more accepted
This is so true. But still most brothers don’t want to do more.
they can just say no sorry. Then they get asked why they don’t want to reach out and they just say life is hard enough why add all that extra pressure of working for free when I don’t have to
just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.
my gut instinct is: "no".
i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.
Michael the right to be held as being in good standing. He even gave that silly trigger warning at the start of Thriller (presumably at their behest) and they dfed him anyway.
What was the trigger warning? I remember that young women in the pink top, was she meant to be a young JW sister? She certainly looked the part.
things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
Women more visibly in positions of trust?
This is happening already due to numbers of brothers not doing much.
many women doing micro and sound. Setting up zoom and computer stuff
now also women taking ministry groups as there just aren’t enough brothers available
it was quite common before the 1960s to have women as the accountants servant etc.
then there seems to have been a peak for a few decades now with most congregations having plenty of brothers but now the peak has long passed and there are just not many younger brothers wanting to do much.
there are plenty of grown men In congregations but they are not interested in taking groups or working for free.
the elders don’t want to do much either, they would rather delegate to others. But others don’t want to do all that work for free.
even sisters willing to do so much for free will be hard to find soon.