Posts by Sanchy

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Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

by LoveUniHateExams in

i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

Sanchy

Fred Franz shares a lot of the blame as well

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Jehovah's Witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking

by Bangalore in

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jehovah's witnesses resume sidewalk carts after pandemic pause, soon will do door knocking.. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/08/05/jehovahs-witnesses-resume-sidewalk-carts-door-knocking-next-list/10168175002/.

Sanchy

Ooof. I do not miss going D to D in this sizzling hot and humid South Florida climate. Felt like I was melting at every door.

It must have been hilarious for someone looking out the window to see us racing from shade tree to shade tree (if we were lucky enough to even be in an area with shade trees).

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

Sanchy

A theological argument can be made for the JW perspective in the following way.

Indeed, the argument you put forth is similar to what WT writes

The Skeptic might think: If God wanted everyone to know him and use his name, why would he allow such an important alteration to occur in the first place? As a result of God's inaction, his name nearly vanished for millennia; and as such now, at this critical junction in time, most still fail to use his name and understandably so, a very costly and fatal mistake, according to JW theology.

It seems to me there are a few separate but related points in this thread:

1) Did the first Christians use YHWH at all? There is some evidence that they might have, at least when reading from their own OT manuscripts.

2) Assuming they did occasionally use the name for YHWH, did they pronounce the name for Jesus more or less often?

If we were to compare the writings of those first Christians to WT publications, how would the frequency for the use of YHWH compare? Even if we were to use the NWT's version of the NT, which claims to have restored the use of the name, it's still evident to me that JWs emphasize the name YHWH much more so than did those early faithful, and I'd add it occurs in an inverse correlation to the name Jesus

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

Sanchy

You are right there is a contradiction between claims that the text has been transmitted accurately and the claim that the divine name stood in the original. So what? ,,,,,
If that means the text has not been faithfully preserved, then so be it.

How much it matters depends on your viewpoint.

From a secular standpoint, I agree. Let the chips fall where they may.

From a religious standpoint of someone that would consider the writings to be sacred and "inspired", the implications are greater.

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Dating in JW

by Renee86 in

hi sisters,.

so i’m dating a jw guy i’m a witness myself .

how do you girls date?

Sanchy

That's weird

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

Sanchy

If the New Testament is reliable, the name of Jesus is emphasized more than the name Jehovah in the New Testament.
If the New Testament is not reliable, and the name Jehovah was completely removed from all ancient manuscripts, God did not preserve His word.

This was one of the first conundrums I faced when I first allowed myself to challenge my own beliefs.

If as WT suggests, shadow groups have been able to alter Bible manuscripts by, for example, removing God's name from the NT, then what else might have they altered?

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

Sanchy

>What name does the New Testament emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

Objectively speaking, in terms of how often they appear, the answer would clearly be Jesus.

Judging by the writings of those early Christians, they simply did not use the name "Jehovah" anywhere near as often as JWs do, if even at all.

The definition of the name "Jesus" is a separate subject

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Is the light getting brighter on this?

by Longlivetherenegades in

can you identify or show the difference in the group of words labelled a and b. a. last part of that last day.... year 1967 .

b. shortly before the last day of the last days..... year 2020 .

is the light getting brighter or going into darkness?

Paul Grundy too, useful information, fifteen years, free of charge.

Indeed. Paul deserves major credit for the great site he built. JWFacts was crucial back when I was connecting the dots of my doubts.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Sanchy

Holy $h!t!

24 pages discussing that contemptible prick's sex life.

Are exJWs really that bored?