for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
So I gave up trying to work it out anything about tablets and astronomical dates because the whole idea was a nonstarter.
Same. To me, the chronology aspect is interesting, but what really made the JW’s 1914 formula fall apart, in a more convincing way IMO, was simply realizing that it takes some extreme mental leaps to claim a second fulfillment for Dan 4, which is the entire premise of the concept.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Damn, sad news. His was one of the first exjw books I read after CoC.
RIP Carl
you may have been wondering: what is greg stafford up to these days?
lots of interesting things, is the answer.
exposing the false trinity doctrine, of course, but keeping on top of other issues too.
Sad
original reddit post (removed).
Lloyd is a glaring example of the "weak men" that Jordan Peterson warns about, totally incapable of looking inwards and instead choosing to deal with his own shortcomings by gaslighting and emotionally demolishing his loved ones.
Lloyd, you're a piece of shit.
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
Scholar:: Scholar is big on grammar and big on exegesis but not so big on eisegesis.
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
Scholar: The said scholar is big on grammar and he has read the verses grammatically in line with sound exegesis.
>"sound exegesis"
Lmfao!
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
Make of this what you will, a post over on the jw forum .....
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
Huh? That is not official doctrine, they have FDS all over the world but are represented by the GB and only the GB distribute the "food" but the GB are not the only FDS according to their doctrines.
Notsurewheretogo you need to keep up with Jehoober's chariot
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
As has happened with all previous failed JW predictions, once WT scrubs all talk about 1914, the "sheep" will simply refer to the concept with labels such as:
"our publications used to teach"
"outdated understanding"
"an adjustment"
... and JWS will, for the most part, including the Scholar, accept it, forget it, and move on to chasing whatever other carrot the GB dangles in front of them.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Jeffro to Scholar: "Do you even listen to yourself?"
Narrator: *He did not listen to himself*
