Posts by Clambake

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Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

by donny in

to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

Clambake

Maybe I didn't make myself clear but someone like Richard Dawkins writing anti-Christian books and going on public speaking tours debating christian apologetics isn't real science. I wish people would realize their is an entire industry taking your money to give you a smug sense of morality superiority. It the same reason JWs manage to suck people into their cause.

Real science is being a doctor, curing diseases, being an engineer, working on the electric car etc etc.

It just bugs me how everyone with a library card and a facebook page posting anti-Christian memes figures they are an evolutionary biologist now.

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Are the USA and Russia the key actors in end time prophecy?

by scotoma in

jw
friends

what's the problem with prophecy?prophecy primarily requires a pattern recognition or insightful strategy not an analytical strategy.

prophecy rarely gives names whether of empires or their rulers.

even the name of the messiah - yeshua -wasn't foretold.

Clambake

With the new understanding of Mog and Magog, It is funny how Jehovah Witness theology is now falling more in line with American evangelical with the big difference being they believe they somehow replace Israel with themselves.

I am not really sure how a vast army of nations from central Asia, the middle east and northern Africa are going to attack all the Jehovah witnesses. I really think Israel really might mean the modern day state of Israel.

Who knows. Every pastor I have talked to about this kind of stuff says it is fine to have in interest in this kind of stuff but there is a danger when your ministry just becomes all about the end times. It is better to focus more on your own life and not being a dickhead. No one really knows.

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Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

by donny in

to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

Clambake

I saw a talk one time by Richard Dawkins about the order of the universe and the precise fine tuning it takes to produce life on this planet and how that might lead to believe in god or intelligent design but since we don’t believe in god…………………….given enough time and space and possibilities from the big bang there must be millions if not billions of solar systems with life like ours or even superior to us, we just haven’t found them. There is nothing remarkable about us.

I then realized I just wasted 30 minutes of my life. There wasn’t a lick of concrete evidence to support of it. It was complete rubbish.

I just wish people would realize there is an entire industry pretending to be promoting the cause “ Science “ which is just anti-christian rubbish. They are just selling books and taking your money so you can feel you have a smug sense of moral superiority . If anyone I thought could see though this bullshit if should be ex-witnesses.

Real science has nothing to do with religion.

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Paranormal Witness

by Clambake in

does anyone watch this show?

it literally scares the hell of out of me..

does anyone here have an interest in the paranormal, demonology , ghosts or general weird stuff.

Clambake

Does anyone watch this show? It literally scares the hell of out of me.

Does anyone here have an interest in the paranormal, demonology , ghosts or general weird stuff. I know this is totally against what Christianity teaches but I kind of gives me hope of something beyond the grave.

Anyone else have an interest in this stuff ?

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WHAT was / is CHRISTIANITY?

by TerryWalstrom in

what was christianity?.

it was like a pointillist painting:.

little dots, daubs, color splotches which only form a picture if viewed at a distance.. if you stand close, you see only the dots.

Clambake

Christianity is a nutshell without God, Jesus and the bible is a belief that man is an immortal creature different than the animals and is held accountable for his actions for all entirety . Plus we are suppose to make the world a better place.

Myth or not, Christianity and democracy are the two greater factors in the development of western civilization.

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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?

by snugglebunny in

jw
friends

when it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.

Clambake

I don’t know which one leaves first but I have noticed it is much easier for a women to leave, especially if you are a convert or a second generation convert. No one cares about you if you don’t come from a prominent JW family. No public talks, no MS , no eldership. There was a lady in my cong that even skipped the memorial and no one cared.

I think men usually wake you first because they are more exposed to the uginess of it. Too most women it is just a social club.

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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

by JWCartPusher in

hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

Clambake

The greater point is in a relative short period of time or blink of a second in evolutionary terms, wherever it be 6000,10000 or 40000, this creature called the homo sapien has somehow separated himself from the other creatures of the planet with a certain consciousness and cognitive ability that no other creature seems to have.

The idea that something pointless and random just happened to our brains is just another form of deism.

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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

by JWCartPusher in

hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

Clambake

The majority of archaeologists agree that the cradle of civilization is Mesopotamia Iraq roughly 6000-10000 years ago.

Sorry, this isn't a religious thing. Just a textbook thing. Quit watching Ancient Aliens.

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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

by JWCartPusher in

hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

Clambake

Cofty

Perfect example of how the WTS never really leaves you. You quoted me out of context.

LoL

The point I was trying to make is there is a big difference between the consciousnesses of man and the origin of the species.

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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

by JWCartPusher in

hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

Clambake

I find anti-Christian literature exactly the same as Watchtower literature. It is twisted and complicated with no real consistently in its teachings and often is boastful and arrogant. It often comes down to a certain type of theism where I don’t really understand what I believe but it is anti-Christian so it must be true. Richard Dawkins born into another life would most likely be the most uber Elder or even a C.O.

The way I look at is the bible doesn’t say the earth is 6000 years old. The 6000 years comes from the genealogy of Jesus Christ in the new testament dating back to Adam. The interesting part about the number 6000 is it the time most scientists agree that civilization began in Iraq. Adam and Eve could just be a parable about the consciousness of man. Who knows?

Instead of worrying about the first 4.6 billion years , I think we might want to wonder about the last 6000 instead.