Posts by Clambake

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The mistranslation of John 8.58

by Wonderment in

john 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.

many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.

others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.

Clambake

Your nuts

Get help

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Remember When Something Bad Would Happen And You Felt Its Really What They Deserved?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was thinking about christmas and how celebrants may lose their home and all their possessions because a christmas candle burned down the house.. witnesses smugly would say, "well, they shouldn't have been celebrating the holidays!

".....yet if a jw got into a fatal car accident while going to a convention, it was clearly satan's doing..

Clambake

I think my wives hall should be the last people to gloat in the misfortune of others. I swear eight people have died prematurely in the last five years. It's like the cong is cursed.

There is an elder who called my wife a stain in his marking talk about marrying me is dying of terminal cancer. I would love to tell him god hates him but I figure that would be bad karma.

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The mistranslation of John 8.58

by Wonderment in

john 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.

many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.

others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.

Clambake

There was a time in my life when I would study this kind of stuff to the early hours of the morning. Mostly about how the bible was wrong, or mistranslated, or the most accurate bible translation etc etc. There is no end to it and it will literally fry your brain if you let if.

An author I found interesting was Daniel B Wallace and he focuses more on 98% of the bible was is the same instead of the 2% that is different. Once you start to think of the bible in terms of context and probability from a mathematical point of view, mainstream Christian beliefs are pretty much what the bible teaches.

JWs are really trying to disprove the bible. Pay them no mind. Same with this wonderment poster. He is a bible burnout who has fried his brain.

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The mistranslation of John 8.58

by Wonderment in

john 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.

many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.

others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.

Clambake

I think if you read the entire story in John about Jesus nearly being stoned to death by the Pharisees and the previous I AM statements, Jesus is referring to himself as being the I AM in the old testament. It is pretty clear.

Actually if you read the entire book of John it is an testimony of Jesus being " The Angel of the Lord ". The figure that was identified was being god and being with god.

It is best to understand the undelaying themes ( deity of Christ ) of the book of John before pretending you are some expert in biblical Greek and Hebrew. Don't fall for the JW trick of bait and switch , isolate a piece of text and then quote out of context.

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Watchtower April 2016 Neutrality

by Listener in

suppose that a popular uprising tries to oust an oppressive regime, one under which gods people have also suffered.

although we would not march with the protesters, might we be with them in spirit?

(eph.

Clambake

Aren't these Fuckers always in court when it comes to something involving the WTS but won't stop to piss on a syrian rufugees.

Oh, these guys are so full of shit.

Oh

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Watchtower April 2016 Neutrality

by Listener in

suppose that a popular uprising tries to oust an oppressive regime, one under which gods people have also suffered.

although we would not march with the protesters, might we be with them in spirit?

(eph.

Clambake

Someone will always do the heavy lifting. I guess freedom really is free.

Parasites

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Today is Christmas, and guess what? Witnesses's were going house to house on my block, TODAY ON CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

by Dunedain in

i kid you not!!!!!

my family, and i, were on our way to my wife's brothers house today, which is the families christmas tradition.

we open presents in the morning, and at around 10:30, we head over to my brother in laws for breakfast/brunch, with all the family.. so, as we loaded some presents up in the car, and we all jumped, and drove away, at the end of my block, jehovahs witnesses!

Clambake

I thought going out on days like Christmas was discouraged. That's what my wife tells me. It's is incredibly rude.

I thought even the most Uber could figure that out.

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I miss my family so much. I thought I was over it but I have breakdowns every few months thinking about my family

by macys in

as most of you know i have been shunned by my family for 2 years because of a photo posted on facebook of me kissing another girl at a party.

the matter was not dealt with fairly but it is over now and i am 100% certain that jdub org is a cult.

but i miss my family so much.

Clambake

Remember

If those fuckers can lie, so can you. Just tell them the bullshit they want to hear.

After that, One meeting a month at the most. Come late, leave early and talk to no one. They will figure it out you are just there for family reason. Enroll in college. Meetings are a great time to catch up on your assigned readings. Just make sure you use your Ipad. Also make sure you lie on your field service reports and everyone knows it but can't prove it. Its a great way for the ubers to keep their distance from you.

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John-1-1-Colossians-1-16-all-other-things - Part 2

by Wonderment in

continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.

the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.

the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.

Clambake

If Colossians is a reference to god creating an angel that intern created the world , you would think the story of the creation of Jesus would be found in the old testament.

Kind one of the missing links of Jehovah witness theology.

What was Paul thinking when he wrote that ? What else has Paul written on the subject ? Calling Jesus the viable image of the invisible god? or “ all the deity rested in bodily form “

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John-1-1-Colossians-1-16-all-other-things - Part 2

by Wonderment in

continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.

the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.

the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.

Clambake

Ever heard the expression “ can’t see the forest because of all the trees “ ?

The book of John is making reference to Jesus being “ the angel of lord “ from the old testament. The figure that was identified as being with god and god at the same time. The how never seeing the face of god and being able to live but people seeing god and living. “ No one has seen the father only the son “.

Now how does that work ?? Well, I don’t know ( this is where a JW feel morality superior to you ) .

I think it is quite arrogant to think we have figured out the nature of god.