i was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
I have often thought that jehovah witnesses on the surface appear christian but when you dig deeper it seems to be this incredibly complex bamboozle to disprove all the basic tenents of the Christian faith.
I think once you finally see though the stupidity of it it leaves incredibly hurt and frustrated. It's almost like it was designed to make you an athiest right from the beginning.
there was a recent thread on the "quality" of converts to jws in recent years.
it wasn't a pretty picture, based on the thread contents.. well, the lack of depth isn't restricted to new converts.. in our clam this week, one of the principal points for review was this:.
ne 1:1; 2:1—why can we conclude that “the 20thyear” mentioned at nehemiah 1:1 and 2:1 is countedfrom the same starting point?
The WTS is literally the only organization on earth that doesn’t reward success, intelligence or education. All it takes lots of hours and a total lack of class as a human being.
What a fucked up model.
yes friends it is too late for most of you to return to jehovah's org.
based on the new garlic bread parable in this month's broadcast with the illustration using loaves of bread.
it is obvious that the doors of the arc has been closed shut by jehovah's hand for some of us.. according to the new parable that can be found on jw tv.
The idea of sinning against god’s spirit or the holy spirit is the idea we are all given a moral compass and know the difference between right and wrong. Of course there are sin’s that are more awful than others and in reality we know in our hearts the things you can’t go back on. For example you couldn’t kill a child for fun because had some kind of mental malfunction and ever be truly repentant in gods eyes.
I had a chat with a real Christian about how awful I felt about going to the KH with my wife. He told me the reason I felt awful is because god was calling me out. You can’t ignore god and expect to ever see his kingdom.
Every time a JW tries to teach that bullshit overlapping generation or teach that gods plan for humanity was to give us seven magical men in New York and only though our works and obedience can we be saved etc etc etc ……………that is called sinning against gods spirit.
This is just another WTS mockery piece. This clown is a dead man.
I was renting a room for a while to my wives JW in-laws. It was a husband, wife and 5 year old child.
One evening two elders showed up ( childless also) to do a shepherding call because the 5 year old looked get this……………. uninterested during the meetings. Basically they told him he wasn’t a good child and they were bad parents for not making their child love Jehovah.
I had to leave the house it was so disgusting.
As a whole I can stand the women. For the majority of them it is just a club. Of course there are some real biggest dog in the yard bitches but that just isn’t a JW thing. Plus there are some shunning Gestapo females I have met I can’t stand.
There are some elders though I truly dislike. Narcissistic, arrogant, dishonest, delusional sense of self- importance, uneducated. My current hall it just seems the biggest loser automatically gets the job.
Something that really bothers me and there is a certain elder in my hall who likes to make the stupidest over the top comments just in an attempt make people roll their eyes so he can spot the ones who haven’t bought it lock stock and sinker.
on a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.
i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.
the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.
We use to have a guy come to the hall in Sweat Pants and a Hockey Jersey. He looked like a wrestling jobber from the WWF of the 80s.
He obviously was mentally ill. No one would talk to him but he kept coming for about 4 months.
If go around knocking on doors , what do you expect ?
so it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.
why is it good news???
because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .
This has happened to the last two congregations I have been involved with.
They are not even getting upset with studues wearing jeans to the kingdom hall.
during the gop debates donald trump said that american’s “wages [are] too high” and later said “that having a low minimum wage is not a bad thing for this country” (7:25)..
do you agree and if so why?.
my two cents on this issue; do the math.
I think 10-11 dollars an hour is fair for both business and the working joe. Something I don't know if Americans realize the value of your dollar really affords you purchasing power. Also in most markets you can still buy a decent entry level house in the $100,000 dollar range.
In Canada the average house price is over the $400,000 mark and everything we import in the last year just become 30% more expensive.
>>the bible reveals that jehovah issaddened when people pursue a wick-ed course and ‘the inclination of theirthoughts is only bad all the time.’ (readgenesis 6:5, 6.
) from this we can per-ceive that sexual fantasizing is wrongbecause it can lead to serious sin that isforbidden in the scriptures and is out ofharmony with jehovah’s way of think-ing.the disciple james wrote: “the wis-dom from above is first of all pure, thenpeaceable, reasonable, ready to obey,full of mercy and good fruits, impar-tial, not hypocritical.” (jas.
3:17) beingaware of this, we should be moved toreject entertainment that fuels impurethoughts and inclinations.
I was listening to a talk in the kingdom hall once and the speaker started to talk about the dangers of anal sex and he was going into quite some detail.
I just thinking , “what are you some kind of pervert “ ?
After the talk the elder I was studying with asked me what did I think of the talk and I was “ What the hell is wrong with you people. There are bloody kids in here and your talk was basically pornographic. It is disgusting and there is no need to talk of unclean things in such detail “
Of course there was a certain amount of acting on my part. I loved to pull the holier than thou card out once and awhile.
if anyone had to guess, what do you think the average age of the community actually is?.
are more millennials actually waking up or is it pretty even amongst previous generations as well?
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I was born in 1974 but I do have more nostalgia for the 90s than the 80s.
Grunge ( Nirvana, Hole, Alice in Chains etc ) Post Grunge( Blink 182, Green Day, Oasis etc ), Kevin Smith movies, X-files, Me being in trade school, road trips across Canada and the United States, buy a house for 40,000 dollars, birth of internet, the television show friends, stupid shit making the news like OJ and Tonya Hardening because the world wasn’t that scary.
I am glad my childhood was in the 80s though. We actually had find stuff to do besides playing on Ipad.
Me and my friends use to watch Red Dawn over and over and play wolverines. I kind of miss the days of the big scary Soviet Union.
