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  How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

  by JWCartPusher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

  please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

  i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

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  Clambake

  I find anti-Christian literature exactly the same as Watchtower literature. It is twisted and complicated with no real consistently in its teachings and often is boastful and arrogant. It often comes down to a certain type of theism where I don’t really understand what I believe but it is anti-Christian so it must be true. Richard Dawkins born into another life would most likely be the most uber Elder or even a C.O.

  The way I look at is the bible doesn’t say the earth is 6000 years old. The 6000 years comes from the genealogy of Jesus Christ in the new testament dating back to Adam. The interesting part about the number 6000 is it the time most scientists agree that civilization began in Iraq. Adam and Eve could just be a parable about the consciousness of man. Who knows?

  Instead of worrying about the first 4.6 billion years , I think we might want to wonder about the last 6000 instead.
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  Israel fears extinction

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what a spirited, brilliant speech isreali pm mr. nethanyahu delivered yesterday to the congress against the negotiated nuclear deal with iran which israel fears would make iran a legitimate nuclear power with the ability to wipe out israel.

  (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/03/netanyuahu-congress-iran-nuclear-deal-path-to-bomb).

  he also said: if no one supports, israel would defend itself alone.

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  Clambake

  Any talk of doomsday, Israel, Armageddon etc. must just piss the WTS off.

  “ But all about us remember us, the end times. We are Israel. Everyone will turn us “.

  I just hope when the average JW watches the news they realize they are just annoying weirdos that knock on your door Saturday morning. The world will end in the Middle East and Israel is actually the Jewish nation just seems like so much like a more plausible explanation if you into that kind of thing.
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  A preaching blitz in Israel?

  by Pistoff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard that the wt is putting together a clandestine preaching blitz for israel, thought i saw someone comment on it here too.. has anyone heard anything?

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  Clambake

  JW subscript to something called “ replacement theology “ where they believe they either the organization or magical men in Brooklyn have replaced the physical nation of Israel. Not really sure what they believe now, it changes so much.

  The problem is a lot of new light seems to be falling in line with the evangelical view where the troubles for Jehovah people first start in the middle east. One major problem , there are basically no JWs in the middle east so………………………….. Lazy assholes, at least make up your own theology, don’t just steal someone else. I know there are people in Brooklyn whose job it is to just watch Christian channel all day and find ideas to steal.
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  Favorite Music Video

  by WildTurkey in

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  2. entertainment

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  what is your favorite music video?

  after shes my cherry pie, i like foo fighters learn to fly

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  Clambake

  Buddy Holly -Weezer

  Gun and Roses- ( all of them). Back in the day I think there was more money spent on a GnR video than some movies. Totally over the top productions.
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  Have you met people in the "world" who are more commited to their christian believes than JWs?

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i met a coworker at my work who was even more commited to his religion then almost anybody i had seen in the jw mids yet.

  whenever we went for lunch, he would do a little prayer first, he didnt care if anybody would take notice of him.

  he does not curse, never!

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  Clambake

  I just love how the WTS thinks it has some kind of monopoly on evangelism and clean living. Today there are more Baptists in China or Seventh Day Adventist in India than the United States. I wonder how that happened.

  All the WTS really has is drones passing out magazines they don't understand to people who don't want them so their family won't stop talking to them.
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  JW's use UN to condemn South Korea for imprisonment of Conscientious Objectors

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  although the organization condemns the un as a satanic organization that will turn on jws and try to destroy them, they're not above using the evil satanic image of the wild beast for personal gain.. link to article on jw.borg here: http://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/south-korea/human-rights-violations-conscientious-objectors/.

  pasting text below in case you don't want to click through:.

  south korea guilty of arbitrary detention of conscientious objectors.

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  Clambake

  If you look at the quality of life and freedom between South and North Korea, I have always found they WTS stance on South Korea extremely hypocritical. If there ever was a case for an armed population it would be the nation of South Korea.

  Cowardly parasites. They should be sent to the gulags of the North.
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  How old were you ??

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when you had to start dumping your worldy friends ??.

  just curious that's all.

  not being a witness ( ubm here ) i think everyone has known a jw kid and at a certain age " my mommy won't let me play with you ".

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  Clambake

  On a somewhat related note, I have always wondered how JWs have managed to recruit anyone while using the terms “Worldly “and “False religion”.

  The odd meeting I have to go to I have pointed out how incredibly pompous and arrogant some of the rhetoric is. I think a light has gone off. Some of the more disgusting talks she doesn’t even waste her time asking me to go.
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  How old were you ??

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when you had to start dumping your worldy friends ??.

  just curious that's all.

  not being a witness ( ubm here ) i think everyone has known a jw kid and at a certain age " my mommy won't let me play with you ".

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  Clambake

  When you had to start dumping your worldy friends ??

  Just curious that's all. Not being a witness ( UBM here ) I think everyone has known a JW kid and at a certain age " My mommy won't let me play with you ".

  Never heard the other side of it.
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  Your body of elders - were they liberal, conservative or moderate?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my first kingdom hall, the elders were ultra conservative.

  our presiding overseer used to be a zone overseer.

  the second hall i was in was moderate.

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  Clambake

  My First Congregation- A couple conservative hard cores that really ran the show that were surrounded by useless Yes men. The so called supporting elders were usually first generation converts which seemed odd. I guess lonely weidos like the power. I think as a whole the congregation really doubted the sincerity of the elders and no one wanted in the club. The joke really was on them. They dfed an entire generation of kids and now this congregation that to merge with another one due to skrinkage.

  There was one particular elder that couldn’t go a single meeting without making notice of one of the batshit crazy doctrines of the WTS. ( Blood, dfing, GB ) . I actually don’t think he really know anything about the bible outside of WTS propaganda. He really scared me.

  My Second Congregation- Small rural congregation. Head elder was a drunk and the rest were doing their mission work. Six months to a year in and leave. Most were single and the prospects of getting laid were slim to none. Pretty liberal bunch though. Once they realized you were only there for family reasons they just left you alone. Once they realized you had a pretty good theological grasp of the bible anything bible related was kind of avoided. I think there was a warning about me placed in my new congregation about not studying the bible with me.

  One of the elders actually had his 12 year old daughter enrolled in dance and figure skating. I thought that was kind of weird. Once we were having a social and one of the elders ( I think accidently ) referred to Baptist youth group as “ those Christian kids “. There was a bottle drive in the neighbourhood earlier that day. Too funny.
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  How many JWs really believe the end will come "soon"?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic has been on my mind lately.

  i have been looking around at jws and wondering how many truly believe the end is as near as they are told.

  from my personal experience, i know that my parents fully believe the end is imminent and may come any time now.

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  Clambake

  My wife tried that “ Well if you just look at the news the end of the system is coming soon with me “. I then reminded her that according to the WTS and the new understanding of Mog and Magog the end of the system of things will happen when there is a huge migration of Jehovah witnesses to the middle east in the mountains of Israel and they will be attacked by a collation of nations from Central Asia to Northern Africa.

  Now I don’t see some 8 million moving any time soon so no need to worry I guess.

  Now if you want to play the bible prophecy game maybe replace the modern day state of Israel with what the society teaches about itself what really makes more sense? In a strictly doomsday scernio.

  I find this is an easy way to end a convo with a JW real quick about “ the end times