Posts by Clambake

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

Clambake

Christianity is a belief that

Jesus was the manifestation of god in the flesh
You are saved by grace, not works, but god doesn’t want an empty faith.
You become a born again Christian, you enter into the new covenant.

Catholic, Anglican, Baptist etc etc……….it is all the same.

JW are a belief

Only 144,000 enter into the new covenant the bible can only be understood by seven magical men in Brooklynn. Essentially only 7 seven in Brooklyn enter into the new covenant.
Only though your works and obedience to the magical slave can you you be saved from the impending Armageddon.

I can’t say I am really much of a biblical scholar but man you would think if that was god’s plan for humanity, you would think the bible would be pretty consistent in this teaching. Outside of the parable of the faithful and discreet slave ( which is a freakin parable ) , there really is nothing in the bible about this arrangement.

The idea what is and isn’t Christian is just a matter of opinion is not true. Now if you don’t believe in the bible, that is fine but don’t say the JWs have any legitimate theology here. What they teach is utterly stupid.

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2016 SPECIAL TALK---ARE YOU ON THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE?

by suavojr in

jw
friends

are you on the road to everlasting life?.

note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..

emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.

Clambake

When ever I see the term " Accurate knowledge " it just gives me the creeps. It sounds like something out of a North Korea re-education camp.

I swear JWs are more about disproving the bible than actually teaching sometimes.

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How Scary Are Circuit Overseers Now?

by minimus in

jw
friends

back in the day, when the co came to the congregation, it was quite stressful for the elders and often, the rank and file.

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is it as big a deal as it used to be?.

Clambake

I have posted this before but CO visits are like when you watch the first two Star Wars movies and think Darth Vader is the biggest dickhead in the whole galaxy and you then watch " Return of the Jedi " and realize the emperor is even a bigger asshole than Darth Vader.

All the elders getting the hall cleaned.

Darth Vader trying to get the Death Star operational.

Both walk in, feel an evil presence.

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JW Threatened me with Violence Today :)

by cofty in

i popped into the supermarket for a few things after work today and found myself walking up an aisle alongside a couple who used to be in my tuesday group.

i see them reasonably often and always say hello much to their obvious annoyance.

i noticed that ian was sporting a shaggy beard.

Clambake

I don't know you on a personal level but you post like an asshole. I am sure lots of people want to hit you LoL.

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How Scary Are Circuit Overseers Now?

by minimus in

jw
friends

back in the day, when the co came to the congregation, it was quite stressful for the elders and often, the rank and file.

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is it as big a deal as it used to be?.

Clambake

What I have always wondered , do you think the average C.O knows how to write a check, check the oil in a car, do a minor home repair, change a tire, do a basic mathematical equation, operate a power tool.

I go to a church where the pastor has a master’s degree in Computer programming with a minor in mathematics. He just felt he had a higher spiritual calling.

You ever hear that kind of story with a C.O ? Most just dropped out of school at 16 and have been pioneers ever since. They seem to have gotten the job because they are too useless to actually survive in the real world.

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How Scary Are Circuit Overseers Now?

by minimus in

jw
friends

back in the day, when the co came to the congregation, it was quite stressful for the elders and often, the rank and file.

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is it as big a deal as it used to be?.

Clambake

I often picture COs as S.S officiers in the last days of ww2 makings sure old men and young children fight to the death for Hitler even though they knew the war was lost.

Most are literally the most useless humans I have ever met. Never worked, usually a grade ten education, couldn't pass an entry level Christian theology level university class. Usually with a wife dumber than a bag of shit.

I have never met one I have ever had any respect for.

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JW to SDA anyone do it ?

by Introvert 2 in

a couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.

so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.

i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.

Clambake

I have been to an SDA church a few times before. It is generally pretty cool. Some of the references to Ellen White are kind of nutty. I thought they didn’t do that but I guess they do.

Still they don’t really believe in the whole body of Christ thing and believe you are saved though your domination, only your membership in the SDA will save you in the end. They don’t do the whole interfaith thing.

At the end of the day they don’t ruin families and destroy lives like the WTS and I guess that is all that really matters.

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Witness behavior in my gym ....

by SecretSlaveClass in

about two months ago two very attractive ladies in their mid 30's signed on at one of the gyms i belong to.

for a while i noticed them watching me and naturally i assumed they were taking an interest in how i went about training my clients since many do before they decide to approach me and inquire about my services (i own a health and fitness consultancy).. sure enough one of them approached me a few weeks back and asked me for a business card, inquired about rates and various other aspects involved with signing on with me.

i handed her a card and explained that my client schedule was full but she should consider signing on with one of my personal trainers who still had some open spots available.

Clambake

I grew up in a normal evangelical church. About half the people who attended each Sunday were baptized members and about half were people who just attended. I know I never really paid that much attention to what was going but I never ever heard stories of infinity , there was hardly any divorced people and absolutely no kiddie diders.

Of course there are former members who fell away but it’s not like anyone ever gets removed. Chances are if you are going to pursue a career in porn or develop a coke habit, you will be long gone before any elder talks to you.

All I ever hear about with the JW is the high standard of cleanliness they hold their members too and at the same time all these terrible things happening.

How come the self-proclaimed morally cleanest people on earth seem to have all this terrible things on?

P.S- You should have nailed her. She gets disfellowed. Finds freedom from the cult. It would have been very Christian of you.

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Angel of the True God

by StarTrekAngel in

i usually open posts such as this one with disclaimer for the atheists/agnostics out there.

i respect your position and what i tried to do in posts like this one is discuss the bible, wether you believe the stories or not.. i believe it is well known that in jw doctrine it is thought that no one has ever seen god.

this teaching is also supplemented by the accounts of moises, where jehovah told him that no one can see him and yet live to tell the tale.. i, however, was always puzzled by some of the grammar in the bible where it seems to imply that god appeared to people.

Clambake

In the old testament the figure known as “the angel of the lord “ who is identified as god and being with god is thought to be the pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ.

Contradiction? ……………………….Kind of and not really. It depends on if you believe in the plurality of god in the old testament. You can’t see god the father just god the son. Thus you get the “ In the being was the word and the word was with god and was god “.

I really don’t understand it all and believe no one really does.

The interesting part about it , this concept is completely ignored in Jehovah witness theology. I think when studying the entire bible it appears jesus and god the father together comprised Jehovah, Yahway , LORD……………whatever you want to call him.

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FMF Rant on Abuse and JW Apologists: The Single Root of the Whole Issue(s)

by freemindfade in

for the jw apologists, they debate certain factors to down play all the recent sex abuse information in the jehovah's witness organization.

and there is so much focus on "two witness rule" and "parents can report" the "elders aren't legal authorities" and many other smoke screen issues.

a lot of these issues and discussion are down stream from what i believe to be the root of the issue.

Clambake

My wife went to her meeting last night and I asked her if there was any talk about the troubles in Australia. She had no clue and asked me what I was talking about. I told her about it and told her it was on CBC news. She just assumed it was an apostate website but when she found out it was from a legit source he eyes lit as big as dollar coins. She actually read the entire article.

I told her this is what happens when you have a religion that keeps secret files on its members, dismisses everything bad said about it as apostate lies and puts men in a position to tell its members they can’t see their families anymore if they don’t do this or that…………………………and you wonder why it attracts pedos like flies to shit.

She had no reply. No fight after either. I hope it was a break though moment.