Posts by Clambake

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Preaching = Salvation... NOPE!

by Divergent in

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today's text:.

monday, january 25. to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.—matt.

25:40.. early in his discourse found in matthew chapters 24 and 25, jesus indicated that the sign of his presence would include a remarkable feature—the good news of the kingdom would “be preached in all the inhabited earth.” (matt.

Clambake

I was trying to find a good commentary about faith vs works on the internet the other day and got frustrated. Finally I just read the entire Chapter of James 2 to see if I was missing something.

Once I actually figured out the context , James was really saying “ Don’t claim to be born again or saved by faith “ while ignoring the poor and people in need. There really is no conflict with Paul and Romans.

The ironic part is the watchtower is so critical of the false religions of Christendom for using outreach work while quoting James and while the chapter is about it is our Christian duty to use outreach work, while the WTS won’t piss on the average person if they were on fire.

Man, it takes a special kind of stupid to be a JW sometimes.

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Do you ever contact those who shun you?

by Xanthippe in

do you ever test the water and see if your relatives or friends still feel the same way?

i don't have mobile phone numbers or email addresses for my family because we left a long time ago.

long before facebook.

Clambake

I know a guy that was DF and worked as a purchasing agent for a school board. He needed to buy 60 computers. He decided to send in a request for a bid to his uncle the elder who owned a computer shop.

All he got in return was an email saying he can’t talk to him.

So much for treating a person like a gentile or man of the nations. He couldn’t even be civil on a professional level.

FYI. The computer shop is now bankrupt and he works as a janitor.

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Do JW get counseled for buying a home?

by thedepressedsoul in

i was curious, i couldn't find much on it.

if anything, there are a few articles that give advice on how to properly buy a home, mortgage, good location etc... .

do you know if the elders can counsel on this matter or remove privileges over it?

Clambake

The majority of Elders in my wife’s hall are renters. They are in their 50s and wouldn’t have more than 1500 dollars to their name.

At least you can get that rug cleaning and window washing contract for your apartment building.

Finical or investment advice from an elder .............LMFAO

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44 years old and having I.V.F help to have a baby thanks too bastard "this Generation" lies!! Wife wants kids in 2016! My story.

by Witness 007 in

as a young witness married couple in the 1990's we knew "this generation" of 1914 did not have long to go!

oh how cute a young pioneer couple we were.

we wont have kids till "afew more years pass" and we are in the new system.

Clambake

I hope you realize the likelihood this isn’t going to work at 44? I am not trying to be a jerk, I have been down this path and it’s full of heartache. We were told when I was 40 and she was 38 by a doctor unless you are really rich ( which we are not) that I am most likely just taking your money.

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The Heresy of Neutrality

by Perry in

the one thing that keeps jw's worshiping the watchtower corporations more than (or as much as) anything else is the issue of neutrality.

neutrality is such a benign sounding word isn't it?

it even sounds religious.

Clambake

The doctrine of neutrality requires a person to believe that everyone is the moral equal of each other.

American solider =ISIS terrorist, United States=North Korea. It is just asinine

If the bible says love they neighbour and someone is putting your neighbour onto the death trains of Auschwitz, I am not exactly sure working as janitors and babysitters for the SS is as Christian as they think it is.

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CONSPIRACY THEORISTS at your door

by Terry in

isn’t the watchtower society valuable because it gets people talking about important issues in our world?.

hell no!.

this argument presupposes that jehovah’s witnesses are ethically neutral–that if the core doctrine (the truth) is not true, its untruth is harmless, but if (by wild coincidence) the governing body of this organization happen to aim a wayward arrow at some real-world issue that needs addressing, the watchtower is a net positive because it directed, at least, some energy toward addressing essential issues of life.

Clambake

I don’t know if the average Jehovah Witness realizes how the insertion of the name Jehovah in the New Testament changes the entire doctrine of the bible. Not really a subject I need to get into but when the foundation of your beliefs is the bible has been changed? What do you really believe in?

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Charles Darwin was not an Atheist

by LAWHFol in

personally i have the same viewpoint of darwin, when he said : " the safest conclusion seems to me to be that the whole subject is beyond the scope of man's intellect".

i'm not trying to convince anyone about the existence or non existence of god.. rather, i encourage everyone to keep seeking.

keep searching for the truth that makes the most sense to them.. darwin is the grand father of evolution, and his findings and life work, did not make of him an atheist.

Clambake

Is there any way we could just start a new forum that couldn’t be accessed without a second membership to just deal with Evolution, Darwin, Dawkins etc etc.

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You Are Unsuitable!

by Divergent in

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today's text -.

sunday, january 24. they collected the fine ones into containers, but the unsuitable they threw away.—matt.

13:48.. understanding the lesson of this illustration helps us to avoid being overly distraught or disappointed if a bible student or one of our children does not make the truth his own.

Clambake

I find JWs have the same mentality of militant atheists. They start from a position they are right and everyone else is just stupid for believing what they believe.

When they start talking about Armageddon ask questions like

-Ask them to explain the difference between the church and Israel?

-Where does it say that everyone alive at Armageddon will be destroyed forever but everyone who has died has a new hope on Paradise earth?

-Ask about the concept of salvation though association and works and how only seven men enter into this new covenant with god. If this was god plan for mankind salvation wouldn’t be a consistent theme though the bible? (Other than twisting a parable)

Ask them if they ask answer any of those questions using nothing but a bible and get them to explain to you after why you are not worthy in gods eyes.

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What was the "Pecking order" in your congro??

by karter in

in my old congro the p.o's wife came 1st before anyone and i mean anyone!!.

karter..

Clambake

My wife cong seems to be the less successful at a life you are, the further you move up the ladder.

I swear the Ubers don't make 10000 a year. Mind you it isn't just about money. I swear they haven't even read a national geographic much less have taken a university class.

No sports, music, current events, no favorite author, no history debate, no movies , no interest in technology. I have never meet people of so little substance.

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Evolution a Fact - Agreed but So What?

by LAWHFol in

in many debates between believers and non believers (nb), the nb uses evolution as some sort of proof to support the non existence of god.. i agree that evolution is a fact, however i feel that evolution is proof of some sort of benevolent original cause.. if i were to create an a.i.

, i would program into it the ability to self-refactor and evolve.. i would also randomly inject viruses into the program (evil) where the a.i.

would be forced to stretch its current capabilities & modify it's operating functions in order to get through the random virus, and continue living.. with a steady flow of different viruses, the a.i.

Clambake

Pointless thread. The question could have been simply asked in the hundreds of other threads on the subject.