did jesus ever utter the name jehovah?.
and if he didn't what are the implications?
nwt answers don't count but feel free to use the kingdom interlinear.
Did Jesus ever utter the name Jehovah?
And if he didn't what are the implications?
NWT answers don't count but feel free to use the Kingdom Interlinear.
I'd like to see where this goes here in this forum wondering if it would be a good doubt raising conversation with my PIMI acquaintances.
guys, ive wanted for long to start to express my thoughts about what i learned about the org and the bible altogether but i'm a pimo.
what suggestions do you have for me?
i don't want to "get caught" for sharing "apostasy" and i think running a page on facebook or instagram is too easy for anyone to track me down.
2 thoughts from a deep PIMO:
>Download and utilize a TOR browser for all your actions if you feel the need to alleviate extreme getting caught paranoia. You're still responsible for the content you post but it would be generally untraceable.
>Always log off any and all accounts you use. Including this forum. I used to be on this forum under a different alias and THE ONE FREKIN TIME I failed to click the Sign Out button was the night I took an elder call, walked onto my porch to have the private conversation, and my wife sat at my computer and opened the Trojan Horse.
its sunday am and i suggest we go for a drive.
why i do not know as we have no conversation no banter at all.. so we did and had coffee.
while we were doing so and looking at the scenery i realized she was humming wt songs to herself.
My wife felt internally the feelings of:
"stay strong for Jehovah"
"that he may be won over without a word"
"Satan is attacking my husband, don't attack him as well".....ect
And Kingdom Songs in her headset, over Bluetooth in the car, on the piano, and like you mentioned......humming the tunes, was a constant feature in our home until she began to wake up.
Fast forward a bit.....she missed 2/3 of the CO visit which would have been unthinkable a year ago.
Life is good.
https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.
montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .
a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .
I read the AP article and got multiple flashbacks to personally being on the phone with another elder conferenced with legal at Patterson (sometimes for hours) to in the end be told the exact same thing....."since you are in Georgia, a non reporting state, you are to take no further action, the authorities are not to be involved."
AFTER the long conference call with legal then came the transfer to the service desk to give us direction on how to "offer assistance" to the victim AND perp.
This subject is the #1 reason out of 53 why I am so ashamed to be known as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. It will be on my mind heavily while at the WT this Sunday, in part, on why we should be proud to be a JW.
Please excuse me, I'm going to vomit now.
yesterday i parked at a rest stop for a bit and there were 2 ladys at a cart.
the cart sign was hand painted.
that was odd to me.
I was attending a conference in downtown Seattle a while back and during our breaks at the convention center would occasionally go sit in the lobby.
From my seat in the lobby I was eye level with 4 people manning two carts at 90 degree angles from each other on the same street corner. Like clockwork every 1-2 minutes at least one of them pulled out their phone to look at the time or looked at their watch.
Jesus would be proud eh?
what were some funny experiences you had of things that happened during talks at the meetings?.
a few of mine:.
- a brother had dyed his hair before his talk and it was raining heavily when he arrived at the hall and the dye was running down his face during his talk and his skin went more and more grey as the black dye ran down it.
Brother brought his tackle box on stage once in a N GA cong. Starting taking this one and that one out explaining the subtle differences and the type of fish each will catch or wont catch.
Ultimately went something like....
Satan is the master at using custom lures to catch individuals based on their personal weaknesses. So he is most effective in using this bait or that bait. No one can claim to be the masterbaiter but Satan and his demons.
or is that old light??.
many young men avoided the draft due to their being “ministers”.
if everyone who is a jw is a minister, women and kids should share ministerial status and even be able to legally officiate and marry someone....as long as they are baptized..
After a "resounding YES!" from the 3 baptismal candidates standing up front and center in a group of 2160 and directly from the Baptism outline:
"Your clear, affirmative answers to those questions give evidence that you are qualified for baptism as ordained ministers of Jehovah God....let us pray"
So we can see why rank and file would think they are. But of course as Elders, behind the scenes, we know different about all the seat warming, time sucking, ignorant, blind sheep we get to control and manipulate.
oh rapture!
today's wt caused my wife's first [jw mind control] epiphany and she didn't hesitate to share upon her discovery.
09/16/2018 | "where are your eyes looking?
Oh Rapture! Today's WT caused my wife's first [JW mind control] epiphany and she didn't hesitate to share upon her discovery.
09/16/2018 | "Where Are Your Eyes Looking?" The dialogue went something like this:
"Babe look at this, pp 1 -10 is full of good old factual Bible account references. But look at pp. 10 'Jehovah may have been indignant' and pp. 11...'another possibility', and pp.12...'another plausible explanation'. So they give us the facts, then comes the conjecture, then comes the direction we cant question based on the conjecture."
I was overjoyed. A total salubrious feeling. But I kept my composure, put my hand on her shoulder and calmly said that I agreed and that is such a large part of my "feeling PIMO".
Later this afternoon after the meeting she circled back around to the morning conversation after hearing everything read and commented on at the WT study. She said, "I think that no matter what KH or church we're sitting in, it will have its own measure of stuff we simply wont agree with."
Yes I said, but other places wont shun us for not believing the stuff we don't agree with.
More to come but the crisis has begun in her head.
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jehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.
the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.
being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.
Lie? Not directly.
Manipulate? Why of course good man. We as JW's are trained manipulators! Can you imagine if our first Bible study (on the 3rd RV when it "counts as one") dove into 8 human men in Warwick are the faithful and discreet slave, 1914 Jesus returned invisibly, only 144k JW's go to heaven, only JW's are truly saved, must be 2 witnesses when your kid is raped by someone in the cong, ect....? If we don't manipulate by withholding information to those newly interested...there would be no Bible studies except with our children.
I simply couldn't count the number of brothers several years ago who all but started a class on how to set up a US S-corp, pay yourself as an employee just below the SSI household maximum which qualifies all in the family for:
>FREE low income medicaid which covers medical, dental, Rx, and vision for $1-3 copay's if not free. No monthly premiums, no co insurance, no deductible, nada.
>FREE "OBAMA" phone, cell phone and service.
>FREE food stamps. Family of six would receive $987 per month
>FREE medical supplies
>FREE gym membership
It feels so good to be an actual paying member of society again. >S
i think trump will be the nominee for the republicans and the democrats... i have no clue.
i hope bernie sanders runs again and wonder if hillary would dare go for a rematch..
I do not vote (shocking right?) but.....Trump will win the 2020 election.
We have money in the bank
Lowest unemployment and most of us a new vehicle in the garage
Lowest debt to income ratios in modern history
He had the nads to talk to Kim Jung Il in person
Said KMA to the Paris Climate Agreement, approved Keystone pipeline, opened Arctic to exploration
Eliminated Islamic States physical caliphate
Best tax overhaul in 30 years
Recognized Jerusalem as capital in Israel. 4 other presidents promised to do it but never did.
Installing supreme court judges for life who will ultimately overturn Roe vs. Wade and other matters
Yeah sorry but, 2020 is his.
