Perhaps this was posted elsewhere and I missed it but...How does one go about finding out in advance about these events. I would so be encouraged to be able to go and listen and chat.
Solzhenitsyn
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In Sydney, and ex jw gathering, with an apperance by Angus Stewart!
by nonjwspouse inthis happened yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pfyty9bs3i.
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When you missed several consecutive meetings or took a vacation did you feel "weird" when you returned?
by Tenacious inevery now and again i would miss meetings due to health, surgeries, work etc.. when i would miss a meeting here and there i didn't particularly feel this "weirdness.".
it wasn't until i would miss 3 or more consecutive meetings that i felt this weirdness upon entering the kh.. i can't really explain it but it feels like i was entering the kh for the first time.
it's not like when you take a 2 week vacation and come back to work.
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Solzhenitsyn
Yep, especially as an elder.
If smack about an elder was going to be talked about, 9 out of 10 times it came up at the elders meeting where he was on vacation or away giving a talk.
Over my tenure as an elder, 2 brothers came back from vacation to face having their "qualifications reviewed."
Needless to say, when I came back from vacation i always felt weird until I confirmed fellow elders exuded a business as usual attitude.
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Emotional Tugging Similarities
by Solzhenitsyn in"as jw's we are the only organization that __________".
yeah no, no your not.
how long will tugging at the emotions of it members last to keep them 'in'?
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"As JW's we are the only organization that __________". Yeah No, no your not.
How long will tugging at the emotions of it members last to keep them 'in'? Once they have exhausted this sort of rhetoric, what will be next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5FxdCgD-qI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6330vx3q0Q&t=101s
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"Its not about the numbers...Its about Love"
by Solzhenitsyn inin the org did anyone ever tell you that its not about the numbers...yet the reality was that it was all about the numbers?.
i ran into a pimi who asked why my family and i were awol.
i told him that it was private and personal and i wasn't at liberty to discuss it.
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In the ORG did anyone ever tell you that its not about the numbers...Yet the reality was that it was ALL about the numbers?
I ran into a PIMI who asked why my family and I were AWOL. I told him that it was private and personal and I wasn't at liberty to discuss it. He then asked quite the question coming from a PIMI..."Have you found any positive aspects from stepping down and not associating with the congregation anymore?" Great question that needed a careful answer.
I wanted to throw him a bone so I told him that no longer keeping track of and discussing numbers, hours, and averages that make up the yardstick by which my and others spiritual worth was measured has been a great relief. I shook his hand and gave him a bro hug while vocalizing a "I love you...unconditionally." He got the implication immediately and said "Its not about the numbers, its about Love."
I smiled and told him, "you keep telling yourself that," and walked away.
Here is a snippet from one of my last elders quarterly meetings with the CO. The agenda was written by the CO.
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2 Gallons of Coffee
by Solzhenitsyn inthat is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.
little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".
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RubADub
Between my wife in the medical field and myself a pilot, we always have these stashed here and there.
Comes in handy for JW suspected perp steakouts as well if bushes in the dark aren't available. Perhaps they should be stocked in the locking elder file cabinet?
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2 Gallons of Coffee
by Solzhenitsyn inthat is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.
little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".
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Solzhenitsyn
No Pete Zahut, not in WA state. In Georgia.
I was a new elder and eager to police, control, spiritually kill, love, shepherd, get some district convention parts under my belt, ect...
My point in the OP was that this single ridiculous JW policing event was that: we will destroy innocent people over "strong circumstantial evidence" but will protect child molesters over strong circumstantial evidence. These 2 contrasting acts produced an ultimate hypocrisy that assisted in waking me up and saving my life and that of my family.
Chapter 12 pp.7
Strong Circumstantial Evidence of Sexual Immorality (Porneia): If at least two eyewitnesses report that the accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of the opposite sex (or with a known homosexual) under improper circumstances, judicial action may be warranted. (w18.07 p. 32)
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Brooklyn Eagle article about the restored Bossert Hotel. Lovely photos of lobby, rooms, etc.
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/06/07/inside-the-hotel-bossert/.
brooklyn heights’ legendary hotel bossert, which for three decades was closed to the public while the jehovah’s witnesses owned it, will reopen soon.. the brooklyn eagle has published this piece of news on multiple occasions in the last five years — as well as numerous stories about start-date delays.. this time, it looks like the relaunch of the waldorf-astoria of brooklyn, as it was known, might really happen.
read more: .
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Solzhenitsyn
To walk back into that building someday will be surreal.
The number of nights i slept there, meals eaten there, friends met in the lobby.....geeeze
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2 Gallons of Coffee
by Solzhenitsyn inthat is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.
little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".
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Solzhenitsyn
No Carla....we were in plain sight.
Jajajaja
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2 Gallons of Coffee
by Solzhenitsyn inthat is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.
little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".
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Solzhenitsyn
Yes it was a lot of coffee, and yes we would get out of the car to pee in the bushes from time of time.
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2 Gallons of Coffee
by Solzhenitsyn inthat is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.
little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".
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Solzhenitsyn
That is how much coffee me and another Elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected JW fornicators we're staying.
Little did I know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder I was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
We disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night". They vehemently denied engaging in any sort of porneia much less outright fornication. Nevertheless according to our elder handbook and clear branch direction, we removed this "wicked couple" as a protection to the congregation.
In contrast (and in accordance with our elders handbook and clear Branch legal and service desk direction) we did nothing to an alleged sexual abuser who would not confess to anything, but in graphic detail had described by the victim disgusting abuse at his hands.
Perhaps there is another JW elder out there who walked in my shoes, or mine in his?