Posts by TheWonderofYou

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JW's in Greece are pushing Migrants to Convert as a "Way into Europe"

by disfellowshipped1 in

greek jw's pressure syrian refugees to convert.

TheWonderofYou

A job in Greece, a house in Greece. why not?

Because the cult could destroy families

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5698284880396288/begged-xelder-talk-shunned-daughter

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At last something about JWs on a German news site.

by Driving Force in

for anybody who understands german.. http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/masha-16-jahre-zeugin-jehovas-article18689741.html.

it is quite rare that a german news site actually puts something up about jws, after all they are insignificant from a newsworthy point of view.

but i like the fact that they have put this up..

"Over the years she was not so urged to satisy her parents. This was the moment when she asked herself about her activity. "What am I doing here actually and with what do I lollygag my life, lifetime that is valueable? I go from house to house and realise that nobody wants to listen anyway. Nobody wants to see me here. I disturb the private sphere."

Masha lost interest in the service and the congregations. Her change didnt remain undiscovered. Sheperds visit her to "retrieve her to God". But Masha felt surpressed by the "Love Bomb" and the - how she felt - "put-on friendliness" of the disciples of Jehovah.

The whole article appeared under the column: Manipulation, abuse and loss

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From her video: "Who I am":

"I live alone since age of 16, now I am 18, I like the uncommon, in my body flows german and russian blood, german are more courteous and reserved, Russian more direct and provocative, what makes it often difficult to adopt to new situations. The older one grows the more independent one gets. Now I am living in Berlin a colourful and loud city, therefore I am exactly at the right place. You can be here like you want. The city is in constant change like fashion, therefore I makes an education as fashion designer, the multitude of colours, shapes and possiblites to employ them fascinates me, from the design till the production..All steps are interesting, i like to watch an idea growing and to create things. Althoug the most fashion shows last only few minutes, much work is behind it. Before a colletion gets on the market many designs have to be performed and fabrics have to be selected. Everything happens under serious time pressure. Everything is not so easy as may be the impression."

"The same was true in my past life. From early age I was urged to her seemingly happiness. I grew up in cult. There I was told what I shall do and especially what I should avoid. I didnt have the opportunity to freely develop myself. But however I get out and the time has come. .. I have found my happiness and want to focus now on my dreams. The whole thing I am sharing in my video clips with you, share with you the big and the little moments as well, the little moments without which make life joyful".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09K1wbuTJEM

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At last something about JWs on a German news site.

by Driving Force in

for anybody who understands german.. http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/masha-16-jahre-zeugin-jehovas-article18689741.html.

it is quite rare that a german news site actually puts something up about jws, after all they are insignificant from a newsworthy point of view.

but i like the fact that they have put this up..

TheWonderofYou

I follow her on youtube.

A further subject of the article is:

- sexistic structure in the cult is the world view of Jehovahs witnesses

- discrimination of women, what a man says has higher value

- the pressure not to have worldy friends is so high that one is afraid to get involved with people outside the community.

- after she left the cult 2013 , her mother said: "Now a have lost my second child", her first died. Her mother was loud and aggressive accused her to destroy her, the mothers, life and prophecied her to end under a bridge, in a life without ever feeling love.

- Masha contacted social pedagogue in the school and was removed from her family, and felt that it was not the "World" that created all these problems but that the religion, these people, this community and her own parents took away all her power.

- the cult spares nobody, homosexuality is strictly punished, such affinity should be surpressed to please Jehovah, otherwise Satans' success ratio would raise.

- She lost everything and now for the first time in life she feels free, without a bad conscience to do what she fancies, watching a film, listen to music, drinking a glass of bubbly, to tattoo, all these little things constitute the great.

- Grown up in the truth she many years tells people that JW is the only true religion, out of love to her parents and to God with 12 years she gets baptized and became offical member. She enjoyed her preaching service, goes from house to house and missionized. For a long time she believed what the "sisters" whispered in her ear when they met people who didnt believe in God. Those, so she heared, would "croak at the doomsday", however she would get into the paradise.

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Now she works as fashion designer.

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Formatting issues

by bikerchic in

how do i turn off the formatting when i use the quote button?.

when i want to start a new paragraph and can't get out of the quote section?.

that made it worse, help!

TheWonderofYou

Another method for escaping without preliminary lines

1. Copy paste or write the text that is your quote

2. Click the Quote-button before the first letter of the quote or after marking it.

Method 1- Preliminary lines
Quote Darkspilver: When you start a new comment, and before you type anything or paste anything...
Use the return key / carriage return about ten or so times to go down the page
Then use the cursor keys to go back to top and start typing and pasting

4. Delete the quotation but not the frame, what remains is this.

5. Then click ENTER and whoops you get a new unformated line after the quotation!

6. Now Paste the quotation again into the frame. Control-V

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DEATH: How have you prepared? Funeral, cremation, donate body to Science?

by TerryWalstrom in

jw
friends

well, hell!.

i had dizzy spells and near-fainting and nausea for a few days, so why wouldn't i start thinking about death, ya know?.

am i just very lax in my responsibilities in having no plans at all?isn't that irresponsible?

TheWonderofYou

Get well soon. Is it your backbone, cervical spine that causes nausea? Do you consume your daily water ration to perserve your brain performance until your afterlife in the school books, do you eat nuts and enough omega?

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If Satan is real . . . . . . .?

by Dunedain in

lets try to think about this "logically", and i use that term loosely, because we are going to use jw "logic".. so, they say that satan is real.

these are the last days.

satan is "roaring about", like a lion, with him and his demons "trapped" within the confines of earth.

TheWonderofYou

"The most dangerous lie is that which has a kernel of truth in it."
"The Most Dangerous Liars Are Those Who Think They Are Telling Truth"
"The most dangerous lie is that is closest to the truth".

Indeed that could be possible, Satan would logically than infiltrate the truth and make appear a little lie as truth, and than again another little lie as truth and so forth, in the end even gross lies would appear as truth. If satan existed he would be mad and absurd.

What would his biggest wish for today in the endtime?

He would like to be himself "the faithful and discreet slave" (claim to be himself the slave and christs successor) to reign like a king over Christs congregation and thus overtake Gods kingdom and act as wanna-be-Christ since 1914 and seduce people to believe him.

This would be Satans last coup before the end. Taking over the kingship and ruling of the world undisturbed.

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It sounds logic but would it be very reasonable for Satan to do it? The organisation sold a truth but it was not really accepted by many as the ultimate truth, and is mostly unknown by the masses.

But would Satan really like to become a common laughing stock like JW for false prophesies, dumb cult, dumb behaviour of Watchtower? Would Satan not rather pay scrupulos attention not to appear dumb but popular? Would he not avoid to be lumped together with the Watchtower?

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What Happens to Adam and Eve?

by Cold Steel in

in jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?

are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?

or will they become two of the heavenly class?

TheWonderofYou

The Rebel: we are still discussing and taking their bullshit so seriously.

Thousands maybe tenthousands even today are followers of Russel, Dawn Bible students e.g.. and believe this stuff about Adam.

http://www.biblestudents.com/topics/Suffering.html

http://www.dawnbible.com/content.htm

http://kingdomherald.com/history/daughters_tower.htm biblestudentsnet

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What Happens to Adam and Eve?

by Cold Steel in

in jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?

are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?

or will they become two of the heavenly class?

TheWonderofYou

Assumed you surviving Armageddon and seeing Paradise now live there and have can choose freely what would be second or a third? chance.

As pratically everyone who will survive Armageddon will once or twice fail and sin nevertheless, would this not mean that all Paradisians could die instantly the second death if not obidient, isnt the paradise a reality show that lease necessarily then to the second death for the most, because they can sin still?

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What Happens to Adam and Eve?

by Cold Steel in

in jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?

are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?

or will they become two of the heavenly class?

TheWonderofYou

Isnt here the typical connection in the teaching between that what Adam lost

"human perfection ..which .... carried with it the right to life"

and

what Adam's offspring receives back after ransomed and what it will possess in the paradise earth:

a life of human perfection with the right to life ...but not more, no automatic eternal life, but further obidience and testing- The offspring is only ransomed and simply brought to the state it would have been withouth Adams sin, Jesus ransom only accomplishing this and not more. The offspring will have to prove loyal as it would have been in the original paradise. The tree of life yet far in distance.

I think this reasoning is behind the Rutherford-theology.

The situation in paradise will not be much different:

if you not obey, you will certainly die and lose your right to live, nothing would have changed at all since the days of Adam, even after Jesus ransom (ransom for release of consequences for offspring)

Adam had no eternal life, he had the right to live, he could die, his perfection was simply a right to live, a limited perfection namely consisting in a right and promise not to die if obiedient, and this you will get if you belief in Jesus ransom, Rutherford taught, (If i err please correct me)

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As the ransom sacrifice concept of Rutherford RANSOM is only for the OFFSPRING, it is not working for Adam and Eve themselves consequently. They are indeed lost. What is not righteous because they did it not of own free will but they were seduced.

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Do not enjoy life now!

by life is to short in

ok so i was stupid and looked at the text for today, i do not know why i did it.

i lost a couple of brain cells and put myself into an even deeper depression over it.

it was just that my husband had it out and i thought what can it hurt, wondering what they are up to.

TheWonderofYou

Whos speaking?

In my hawkers tray is a thrilling message for everyone:

For children I have now in my offer the thrilling paradise earth full of amazing love of Jehovah, a comic with Sopie as actor.

for adults there is the latest thrilling Armageddon film with persecution that gets under the skin.

Are you ready?

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Sophie likes butterflies she watches them often in the meadows. She even takes her loupe to watch how the caterpillars look like and wonders how they change into butterflies.

The lession she gets in this short video is that Jehovah really loves us because he designed such wonderful amazing creatures which we can watch and study. He did it simple for our amazement and that we can be happy in our life perhaps even become butterfly scientist.

Mom: "Isnt if fine that Jehovah designed so many WONDERFUL thinks for us to discover. That shows how much he loves us."

Sophie: "I cant wait to be in paradise to study every butterfly that Jehovah has designed."

Sophie: "Jehovah made so many amazing things whats your favorite"?

Then the butterfly transforms into the JW-Logo. Hahaha. The art department is working hard to transform JW are nice beautiful butterfly-like people.

Note that

1) Sadly in this video is taught that in this life we cannot fully be happy and find all butterflies that we want, only in paradise. Its sad that today we cannot study every butterfly that Jehovah has designed. That was not the focus here.

2) Sadly helping dying breeds and bees are not mentioned, no initiative started, many organisations start initiative to help butterflies, each year some species are dying out. That was not the focus.

3) Sadly in the video it is not mentioned that butterflies could be soon destroyed in Armageddon or because of natural pollution, thats because children could be scared. That was not the focus.

4) They simply jump instantly from amazement about butterflies to paradise, not much between as if Jehovah only existed in the paradise and not also today and if today we cant do anything for our already now amazing world full of wonders.

https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODChildren/pub-pk_24_VIDEO

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Now adults listen:

Going through the GT is like a "metamorphosis" happens to you. Therefore we should prepare for this painful metamorphis in the GT. We will be polished, our true self will be UNHIDED. We will be confronted with our own shadows. Is that scary? Prepare yourself for our thriller sequences about our strange metamorphosis after which we will be in the paradise where we will encounter much tribulation, only fully devoted true followers will survive seemingly everlasting thousand years of the millenium under regime of elders checking your characters and true repentance. Yes.. there will be public hearings, testimonials and public Judicial commitees in the new world.

Who received a gift will be tested much more.