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RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

the trial has begun.

the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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TheWonderofYou

I plead for a period of a dozen years in which the managment of the J.W. finances in Russia would be taken from the hands of the money-mad leaders and given to a Russian public trustee, a trustee that keeps the accounts of the religion.

In this time the Russian ministry of religion and culture would observe the developments and adaption of JW procedures about e.g.

1) pedophile files treatment, procedure to be changed.

2) judicial hearing process. to be changed and treatment of ex-JW which harms people physical and spiritual health and destroys families. to be changed

3) free informed decision to take blood or not without pressure of the JW Hospital Liason committee. No HLC in hospitals, to be changed.

4) usage of a part of the witness money for relief activities and victims of JW-shunning and repression in Russia.

NO persecution, No criminalization!! Only if no cooperation is achieveable!

After a dozen of years the ministry of culture could finally proudly accept then the religion as "JW of Russia".

And all JW in the world would lately benefit from such a "Russian Action for Immediate Change in JW legal procedures in regards to protecting publicity and members from any harm or exploitation from extreme procedures". Note I say extreme procedures but not extreme people, they are are lost sisters and brothers!!

Its because I have always a spark of hope and want the best for anybody. So I am. Give them the chance to change. A religious change from inside is the only thing that has sense.

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

TheWonderofYou

Flipper: These WT leaders are evil, narcissistic, sociopaths who feel the laws of the land in any country do not apply to them. They feel entitled as they feel they ARE " god " essentially and have no need to answer to anyone for their actions.

The power has only who manages the finances. Most part of JW -life is about money, free labor, donating as much as possible to the headquarter and not reporting about the usage of money.

cash as much as you can - what a lifestyle - dont report about - how cruel.

Tricky arguments let one go donate to the cash mashines, cause money is always urgently neede to cover the unexpected costs - money-madness

What if the managment of the J.W. finances would be taken from the hands of the money-mad leaders and given to a public trustee a trustee that keeps the accounts of the religion?

Then the GB could concentrate on spiritual matters and not have the burden to keep the accounts. Its a nice idea, A "public ministry of religion and culture" can lead the accounts for cults.

Much would change. The faith is allowed, not forbidden, no persecution, but the control over finance should be not in the hands of money mad leaders as long as there is no cooperation about temporarily three subjects:

1) pedophile files

2) change in the judicial hearing process and treatment of ex-JW which harms people physical and spiritual health and destroys families

3) free informed decision to take blood or not without pressure of the JW Hospital Liason committee. HLC

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JW Russia Ban Threat Being Reported on BBC

by konceptual99 in

just for information really.. the bbc is reporting the jw ban.

they have a news article and have been running a video report amongst headline items on the bbc world news channel.

the article is below, i cannot find the video report online yet.

TheWonderofYou

Info

Germany

https://de.sputniknews.com/gesellschaft/20170405315194068-zeugen-jevohas-verbieten-bemitleiden/

Italy

http://www.nev.it/nev/2017/04/04/russia-i-testimoni-di-geova-a-rischio-proscrizione/

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RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

the trial has begun.

the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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TheWonderofYou

Now in spanish by JW brazil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JGOOiovOqc

Mark Anderson speaking Russian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF1YOFFxD5U

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RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

the trial has begun.

the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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TheWonderofYou

VOICES FOR jehovas witnesses,, Expert propaganda interview about extremism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kF09ojl2Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHIlXCoDRyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgGhq5QCUa8

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RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

the trial has begun.

the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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TheWonderofYou

Representing the Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia, Vasiliy Kalin appeals to government authorities to stop the unjust persecution uploaded by Mr Weimar David Garcia Moreno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7U9yiHeH-4

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RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

the trial has begun.

the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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TheWonderofYou

Where did Sanderson learn Russian, has he Russian blood line ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi7etpM4AEI

Appeal to stop the legal action

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The Pagan Origins of the Memorial Observed by Jehovah’s Witnesses

by David_Jay in

“we don’t celebrate holidays because god doesn’t approve of any celebration that is rooted in pagan customs and manmade traditions.” (see here for a similar jw response.).

if you were once an ex-jw like me, you have probably said something like this out in field service to someone who asked the question: why don’t you people celebrate holidays?

as the witnesses' official website states in an faq about not celebrating easter:.

TheWonderofYou

---and without understanding the pagan roots we are missing a valuable source to understand the reason why those pagan parts became part of the jewish/christian/muslim religion and why they are expressing and bearing important messages for us. We cant understand our religions without accepting the pagan roots.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

TheWonderofYou

David_ Jay: They often rejected the entire world of academic seminaries as part of "Babylon the Great," leaving themselves with a theology that read the Bible literally.

The keyword "babylon" reminds of Alexander Hislops' book "The two babylons" 1853. or similar books in other language like "From Babylon to the catolic church" in german of the christian literature service in Germany, published 1997. http://www.clv-server.de/pdf/255377.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hislop

Certainly it originated also in the 19 the centurys' atmosphere of the second great awaking in America, where everything related to the classic churches was attributed to Babylon.....like The Sunday, Easter.... And the biblestudents grew up within this non-academic atmosphere. In the community of many congregational chapels, adventits?, its certainly yet a classical book and available on internet.

http://ldolphin.org/PDFs/The_Two_Babylons-Alexander_Hislop.pdf

Books full of trivial simplifications about the meaning of festivals. One matter is a pagan connection or origin, but the other matter is that pagan symbols mean nothing if one has the right attitude.

Even the name of God has pagan origin. The Israelites gave it a new meaning and dimension. Perhaps it was the preisraelite storm god or mountain/ vulcane god. Scientist found even out the the word JWH sounds like the noises of a vulcan.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

TheWonderofYou

With PASSOVER began the exodus from Egypt. Ex.12 with MAZZOT began the entry into the promised land.

Passover and Mazzot were originally two festivals of the early Israelite farmers, which later fell together, after the urbanization of israelite society and religion.

Passover was originally the festival at the decampment of the sheperdess and sheperds: with their herds they moved on to the distant early spring pastures. This happened after the winterrains and at the beginning of the vegetation period, so that the sheep and the goats didnt come with the grain into the enclosure.

Mazzot was the festival at the beginning of the harvest of the crop. The absence of leaven symbolizes that the harvest of the last year was completely consumed and that the community was dependent fully on the blessing of the coming year.

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Also a passover lamb slaugthering at 14. Nisan by the sheperds was combined with the Exodus story and celebration of Passover. The sacrifice of lamb was originally slaughtered by the farmers as protection of the evil demons and the blood spread at the door of the houses to protect the dwellings. This happened in shepherd cultures. The meaning of passover therefor is not only "pass-over" (in the legend a revenge demon passed over at 14.Nisan in Egpyt and spared the Jews) but therefore also "mercy and protection", "spare", "escape".

A long history of Judaism with hundreds of symbolized traditions. Pessach and Pentecoste e.g. with origin in the harvest festivals and other things.

Even christians talking about Passover and Pentecoste say that it turns around the harvest of men, so the harvest got into the christian religion.

Christians are harvesting men and are using fruits of the field for the harvest - bread and wine to symbolise the harvest of anointed ones - and they consume it or not.