Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Prayer

by TheWonderofYou in

jw
friends

dear lord jesus,.

let me be a friendthat when i need a friend somewheni will be not alone.. jesus, my saviour, my truth, my life,be my friend if i dont understand your wordand sometimes am confused.

be my friend in the stormy time,let me trust and believe in your mercy.dont let me judge about wheat and weedbut trust in your heart.

TheWonderofYou

galaxie: The mercy in the prayer reflects my understanding of biblical mercy,

the mercy of a loving mother and father.

The Jehovahs witnesses have judged and are judgeing other religions without mercy, not

waiting for Jesus jugdment, they call the other christians, spiritual fornicators, whore babylon,

In the field service I have condemned the catolic church, i had no mercy, I separeted wheat form weed.

I did not wait for Jesus, the merciful judge

That is the reason way I am praying for mercy, and I pray that the I do not blame someone or harm someone, more than Jesus would have done

Let us trust that God uses us, everybody of us, but that God lately will win and lead us to blessings.

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Jehovah's witnesses owe much to the catolic church

by TheWonderofYou in

jehovahs witness owe the bible to the catolic church,the church was the authority that put the bible together, and jehovahs witnesses owe the name jehovah a catolic monk.

jehovash witnesses owe the catolic church the sowing of the field where they are now preaching.. otherwise after leaving the jw i got a much better understanding of christianity and the cc..

Jehovahs witness owe the Bible to the catolic church,the church was the authority that put the bible together, and Jehovahs witnesses owe the name Jehovah a catolic monk. Jehovash witnesses owe the catolic church the sowing of the field where they are now preaching.

Otherwise after leaving the JW I got a much better understanding of christianity and the CC.

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Reasoning on the New "1900 Years" JW Theology (from David Splane)

by FusionTheism in

inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.

TheWonderofYou

Referring to

David Splane:before 1900 there is no entity "Federal and discrete slave -[class]" cognizable
Fusiontheism and WT 7/15/2013: Anointed christians were protected by Jesus at anytime.
The anointed are the body of christ, have heaenvly hope since 33 until 1900.

Note: Before 1900 you could be anointed and could have heavenly hope without knowing or specualtion about the federal and discret slave class. The anointed were protected by Jesus.

Why after 1900 a governing body representing the federal slave was suddenly thought of by the watchtowergremiums?

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

TheWonderofYou

Half banana,

the only Truth in the bible is: Jesus is the Truth, he is a person, he is god because a man cannot be truth,

The bible is not to be understood as compendium about dogmatic sentences, but as report, as good news about Jesus. The word of god is not called word of god because it is without error but because it reports about Jesus christ.

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Prayer

by TheWonderofYou in

jw
friends

dear lord jesus,.

let me be a friendthat when i need a friend somewheni will be not alone.. jesus, my saviour, my truth, my life,be my friend if i dont understand your wordand sometimes am confused.

be my friend in the stormy time,let me trust and believe in your mercy.dont let me judge about wheat and weedbut trust in your heart.

TheWonderofYou

Somewhen? we can leave it out, actually. Thanks.
I thought the friends section is a good place for a prayer.
I have nobody to speak about the JW stuff, I am living in a separated household, even my children dont know,
nobody knows that I have been a witness once, for my wife the JW are like cancer and she would never speak about the matter, so nobody to talk about, sometimes I look around here to share
the new discoveries I made since then
So this friend section is a part of Jesus blessings for me perhaps, is it not?

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Prayer

by TheWonderofYou in

jw
friends

dear lord jesus,.

let me be a friendthat when i need a friend somewheni will be not alone.. jesus, my saviour, my truth, my life,be my friend if i dont understand your wordand sometimes am confused.

be my friend in the stormy time,let me trust and believe in your mercy.dont let me judge about wheat and weedbut trust in your heart.

TheWonderofYou

Dear Lord Jesus,

let me be a friend
that when I need a friend somewhen
I will be not alone.

Jesus, my saviour, my truth, my life,
be my friend if I dont understand your word
and sometimes am confused

Be my friend in the stormy time,
Let me trust and believe in your mercy.
Dont let me judge about wheat and weed
but trust in your heart.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

TheWonderofYou

Inspiration how to understand?

Take the gospel called Matthew it was written for a special purpose, it is a redacted compendium for the church that was created to serve the church in the "evangalisation" work and to be read in the congregations.

As in the book are many references to customs and lifesituations that only eyewitnesses could have known played a role for people lifing before at 70 CE. the desctruction of the Jewsih community and social life in Jerusalem and the destrcution of the communitey in Qumran occured, the sources are from people that lifed in the 1 st century.

Mattew is alos based on the same sources as Marks gospel. But Mark used the words sources and eyewitness, testimonals for another gospel with another audience. We have 4 gospels that were not harmonised to delete some different text traditions, no the church let all 4 gospels stand for itself, to show that they had a real descent from the early church in a special need situtation. Sometimes we read and think, why 4 different reports about Jesus?

Was it inspired by God.?

The gospel of Matthew contains the point of view of the 1 st century, the jewish traditions, the world view of the antic and jewish time.

The catolic church does not belief that every single word is a direct memorandum of God, that had a direct line to the writer of the gospel and dictated him, no the gospel contains the beliefsystem of the early church, it is a handbook for the evangelisation, that was the purpose. Matthew very strong concentrated on Jesus Parables about the Kingdom of God, Jesus was obviousley a splendid speaker because the parables brought the listeners to thing about not what future fictive rulership could bring peace and security but about what Gods Kingdom meant for them in their daily life.

The parables contain customs that like the typical sowing method in Judean agriculture at that time that makes the farmer loooking very awkward.....(read Mattew 13-19, 18-23, Mark 4,13-20, Mark 4,1-9). The farmer sows the seed on the trampled bottom where is only few humus, because it was typical in that agriculture, to sow before the plowing. Did you know that Jesus wanted to say not that there will be good and bad results, or god and bad people but that God somehow will arrive the goal anyway. We can trust in his ability as farmer. His empire is blesssing and fullness, despite opposition, despite separated churches, the unity was lost,

This message and good news of mercy and joy about the loving God changed already in the 1 century hundred thousands in their thinking about God and brought the christian belief to Alexandria, to Antiochia, to Babylon, to Rome, to Spain......to Damaskus...Yes it was a hunted and trailed church (by the Jews and the Romans and many other cults) that needed a handbook and so Mattew wrote it whith the aim to tell about the good news about Jesus. Although Jesus did say nothing about that his words should be written down or written down fast to be not forgotten.

Based on early written sources of Jesus words and eyewitnesses and testimonials and using the greek Septuagint -Old Testmant Version for interpretation of the happenings, (but also citing Jesus words that are not in the Jewish bible canon, texts we dont have today) it was put together as compendium for the early church for a special purpose

It was created by Matthew for the church.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

TheWonderofYou

What kind of errors in the Bible?

The New Testament specialist Daniel Wallace notes that although there are about 300,000 individual variations of the text of the New Testament, this number is very misleading. Most of the differences are completely inconsequential--spelling errors, inverted phrases and the like. A side by side comparison between the two main text families (the Majority Text and the modern critical text) shows agreement a full 98% of the time.[18]

Of the remaining differences, virtually all yield to vigorous textual criticism. This means that our New Testament is 99.5% textually pure. In the entire text of 20,000 lines, only 40 lines are in doubt (about 400 words), and none affects any significant doctrine.[19]

Greek scholar D.A. Carson sums up this way: "The purity of text is of such a substantial nature that nothing we believe to be true, and nothing we are commanded to do, is in any way jeopardized by the variants."[20]

This issue is no longer contested by non-Christian scholars, and for good reason. Simply put, if we reject the authenticity of the New Testament on textual grounds we'd have to reject every ancient work of antiquity and declare null and void every piece of historical information from written sources prior to the beginning of the second millennium A.D.

Has the New Testament been altered? Critical, academic analysis says it has not.

18 Wallace, Daniel, "The Majority Text and the Original Text: Are They Identical?," Bibliotheca Sacra, April-June, 1991, 157-8.

[19] Geisler and Nix, 475.

[20] Carson, D.A., The King James Version Debate (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1979), 56.

Source: http://www.str.org/articles/is-the-new-testament-text-reliable#ANCHOR19

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Interesting resource site

by paradisebeauty in

i dound an interesting site from a christian group that has similar doctrines - but more sound i'd say.

they have free audio books and free podcasts.

if you read / listen, what do you think of them?.

TheWonderofYou

After a short view.. ... they like your money....they like to control your homosexualit, your correct sexual attitude, the are unitarian, no trinity......

Dear paradisebeauty what kind of religion are you loooking for? What is imortant for u?

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Is this doctrine still in in effect?

by WasOnceBlind in

so something i never knew was the fact jw's were taught that jesus is only the mediator for the anointed class and not for everyone.

i only found this out after reading "crisis of conscience" and i was actually pretty shocked to learn so.

if that is the case, when they pray why even bother saying the words "in the name of jesus christ we ask"?

TheWonderofYou

They even believe that the Bible was written ONLY for the 144000 anointed ones, for those who inherit the kindom. All others have to listen to the word or channel of mediators, the anointed ones.

So the bible is not understandable for everyone but only for the federal and discret slave class. The problem is that they teach at the same time since last month (see threads about David Splane) that between 100 A.D and 1919 A.D. there were no anointed ones or no discret slave class on earth, so nobody could interpret the bible before 1919 correctly, because nobody had the right attitude and could serve God as discret slave, But So the Bible survived and was copied and transmitted by the catolic church directly into the hands of the Watchtower Society by power of gods spirit although it had not the right attitude, but apparently enfough for copying the bible and keepint it as treasure..... until 1919.in 1919 they could correclty interprete it then in the watchtower headqaurter in new york finally.with the right attitude and understand that theyself are the faithful and discrete slave. but not yet fully undstanding everything about the matter, only the governing body since 1970 knows everything much better and since June 2015 David splane speculates again about the fact that there was no slave class before 1919 WOW......... endless mysteries begin to reveal.

God wrote the bible 33 Ad. and kept it over hundreds of years in the hand of a harlot not knowing when would be the right moment to make it understandble by the FDS-Class. Jesus did not know it, but FDS knows it ;-)