Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Any Reviews or Feedback from the District Convention??

by daringhart13 in

i stopped in to see if that are any overwhelming statistics, stories or feedback from people regarding the 2016 district convention.....haven't seen much...... any stories or threads?.

TheWonderofYou

World you day english

https://twitter.com/wyd_en

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World Youth Day in Poland

by TheWonderofYou in

in the video of the world youth day "spread message of divine mercy" the young people are called witnesses of christ's church.

i am now watching the happy young people.. introduction words even in english at youtube 9:07. .

anyone here understands polish too?.

It is very comforting to me to see that outside Jehovahs witnesses, young people find very well hold in the gospel. And yet catolics are so many and not yet extinct fromm the earth surface as may JW hope. I grew up catolic and I should have remained catolic and not become a Dub.

In each group you will find hypocrisy. Early bible writers wrote about it and "fortsaw" the "man of lawlessness", "antichrist", people who will cruzify jesus a second time by their acts and deed against the holy spirit, those name christians are not buddhists, taoists, muslims no, but christians!, who willingly act against the christian mercy. They are the real "apostates" - not the weak Jehovahs witnesses - you find them everywhere, and we should not be surprised to have those weed in the christian community.

But Jesus wanted a church and founded it with some normal guys who should take the message of mercy into the world. A message that says only: in the end only love and mercy will help people.

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In the video beginnin at 1:26:00 when the communion starts, the song sounds similar to Jehovahs witnesses songs it is called "Lord you are our sheperd". Who is the girl at 1:22:27? May God bless her.

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World Youth Day in Poland

by TheWonderofYou in

in the video of the world youth day "spread message of divine mercy" the young people are called witnesses of christ's church.

i am now watching the happy young people.. introduction words even in english at youtube 9:07. .

anyone here understands polish too?.

TheWonderofYou

In the video of the world youth day "Spread message of divine mercy" the young people are called WITNESSES of christ's church.

I am now watching the happy young people.

Introduction words even in english at youtube 9:07.

Anyone here understands polish too?

Greetings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrp4gbrWc8

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Many beautiful orchestral songs like

at 12.30 "Nothing can separate us from gods mercy"

18.00 Kyrie eleison

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CAUTION: do NOT read! They MYSTERY of GEMATRIA in the bible

by Terry in

what if there were no such things as arabic numerals (0123456789)?.

what if you only had your alphabet?!!!.

well......you could use letters as numerical values.

TheWonderofYou

https://www.bibelkommentare.de/?page=comment&comment_id=332

meanings of numbers in the bible from 1 to 70

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Imagine living in JW's Paradise.

by James Mixon in

lets say you are able to go back in time to the first man( their belief adam) 7000 years.. now you are magically transporter back to adam time with the knowledge you have from.

todays world..would you make life a little easier for you and your family???

you may move.

TheWonderofYou

No black cats because they are magical

Isnt enough what the prophet said:

"There will be vineyards, gardens, and they will build houses.

I always interpreted it to mean that like in the imagoe of the old Truth book, there will be houses that look like in those japanese gardens.

and I always thought that in paradise there will be the latest technological developments achieved and benefitted of, EXCEPT the slave should decide to go back in history or a big armageddon destroyed everthing.

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They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

by pale.emperor in

"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

"all of our publications are open to everyone.

we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

TheWonderofYou

What appears in the beginning in the shape of an anecdote about a rather unimport random subject in the JW JW religion

"We dont have a secret book "...it is not secret but ....only forbidden for some of us" hahaha

is in the end a top story of high importance because it has so many consequences on so many different levels.

like others already said and...

the random notes the elders make handwritten are handled like unwritten law consisting of personal outfindings about the current understandings of the slave and thus overrolling the interpretative law based on confusing wt literature.

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HOW the WatchTower leaders flipped the script on Christianity

by TerryWalstrom in

worship of jesus was declared to be an act of idolatry!.

we are going to examine the cataclysmic changeover in christian teaching exploding inside the watchtower religion in the early 50’s by exploring a background of the history of jesus’ place in christianity.

jw teaching about the nature of jesus’ importance in the salvation of mankind will be compared with christian history.

TheWonderofYou

Just jumping over some passages of this thread and how fine you cull out the basic ideas and changes. Gratulation.

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DOOM and LUXURY : the Watchtower Elite prepares for the GREAT TRIBULATION

by TerryWalstrom in

boondoggles and preppers watchtower style!

a religion of doom and luxury!.

in 1866, the times of london wrote:.

TheWonderofYou

My country has a total population numbering approx. 8 Mio too!

Imagine all JW once in 200 - 300 years migrating there countries and settling down in a undeveloped region, creating a new state, how would that be. This reminds me of a russian sect who lives in the woods and have an own community life there. The prophet of the sect calles himself "Jesus of Siberia" or Vissarion, one of his books called "The last testament" and the group is called "Church of the Last Testament" (Церковь Последнего ЗаветаTserkov Poslednego Zaveta), also known as "Community of Unified Faith".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/24/russia.iantraynor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Cv5hZfOmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTgaHZ-wbVI

cult home page

http://www.vissarion.info/

Perhaps this will be the future of JW in 300 years after the GT of today and preparing in itself in the outcast for the next GT?

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Gods' name removed in Silver Sword?

by AmyWatson916 in

does anyone have an explanation about why the silver sword edition of the nwt removed god's name at exodus 34:14?

that verse is now different than the 1984 and 1970 versions of the nwt.

odd for an organization who believes that "god's name is of the utmost importance" as it says on page 195 of the bible teach book..

TheWonderofYou

Noted.

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EXISTENTIAL topic: Why is Paradise or Heaven the solution to anything?

by TerryWalstrom in

gather around the campfire, boys and girls.. i have a little journey for us all to take together.. long, long ago in this universe not so far away .

.we were told a story.______________once in timeless nothingness, there existed a timeless being we now call god.whatever "perfection" is or was--god was.

god was perfect.. but wait--that's not all!and here is where the story begins!.

TheWonderofYou

NIRVANA – What is it?

„blown out like a candle“ or „quenched“

Are you ready for putting another log on our campfire and listen to a story? At the campfire our thoughts ramble.

I did a little homework to understand the idea of „Nirvana“ and the connected „Samsara“ how I could work for my own Buddhahood to help others if I would find time. This is necessary before talking about the fictive situation, that we put our monotheistic GOD into Nirvana and think about how „he“ feels there.

If Nirvana meant really squinching of the candle literally, than our campfire would not exist here, because I feel content with our situation here. And what about feelings, personal identity and our personal liberated ultimate contentment, would it be squinched?

The „magi“ speak of two kinds of Nirvana, one that is even already achievable in this world, as human being and the other after the death, the buddahood in this life is Nirvana.

In Buddhism a person can be in this live in the state of Buddhahood, what would be the same as being already in Nirvana, but this kind of Nirvana is only achievable after much CHANGE in someones thoughts and deeds, liberation, awakeing. Yes furthermore, this kind of change of mind is positive, a positiv change that leads to enlightenment, the state of altruistic BUDDAHOOD and the release of our inner buddha-nature, say the magi.

As for the Nirvana-state in this life, the CONTENTMENT does not mean – as we saw - liberation of feelings, emotions but in contrary the fullness of empathy towards other beings.

What than is meant with the „extinguished flame“ in Nirvana, if the personal true nature/individuality the EGO is not „quenched“? It turns around the „ CHANGING triple FIRE“ of „illusion, greed and hatred“ - the source of suffering - from which in Nirvana you are liberated, they are blown out.

Truth of Cessation of Suffering.
„It is clear that nirvana-in-this-life is a pyschological and ethical reality, a transformed state of personality characterised by peace, deep spiritual joy, compassion, and a regined and subtle awareness. Negative emotional states and emotions such as doubt, worry, anxiety and fear are absent from the enlightened mind.“ Truth of Cessation of Suffering.

To come further I go first into explaining how the way to Nirvana looks like and how it can the state of Nirvana/Buddahood is achieved.

I read “How to expand love, widening the cycle of loving relationship“, 2005 by Dalai Lama. In this book he describes the way of altruistic enlightenment as mediation, awareness, widening out out empathy on all beings, commandable meriterious altruistic deeds.

Fundament: Equality of friend and enemy, meditation

First step: Positive attitute towards other beings
Second step: Appreciation of benignity and amicability
Third step: Responding to benignity
Fourth step: Love, solidarity, awareness of suffering, care (unconditional Love)
Fiftch step: Development of Pity and mercy,
(Desire to see others released of suffering)
Sixth step: Pledge oneself to altruism and charity, (unconditional devotion)
Seventh step: Unselfish altruistic entlightment
(transformation from egoisms to healthy welfare and love towards others)

Conclusions:

So everthing in buddhism turns around „AWAKENING“ of the spirit. This is a process accompanied by CHANGE, wisdom, learning, meditating, empathy, doing.
“Ultimate enlightenement therefore is not egoism of the individual, redemption for yourself without thinking of others, but is only achievable through being merciful and pityful to other beings.

Dalai Lama writes: So you will not rest in peace but consecrate yourself to the wellbeing of others....The endpoint of spiritual practice is the large empathy.“

The wellknown titels for this way of AWAKEING are:
Buddahood [Awakended one = being benefit all beings]
Buddanature [awakened mind]
Bodhisattva [someone who wants to awake]
NIRVANA [state after awakening],

The highest degree is in buddhism the enlightenment [AWAKENING] which is the permant presence of empathy.

Dalai Lama writes: So you will not rest in peace but consecrate yourself to the wellbeing of others....The endpoint of spiritual practice is the large empathy.“

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Terry:
Buddhists might describe the ultimate state of existence as NIRVANA.
Nirvana means that the candle has been blown out.
It describes the darkness and peace God was in BEFORE he decided to change.__

So my understanding of the meaning of "blowing out the candle" is now not any longer a state of DARKNESS, BOREDOM, LONELINES in heaven but of AWAKENING,TRUE COMMUNION, FRIENDSHIP like at our fine campfire here, with flames of empathy, flames from our hearts, free of false illusions. This comes close to nirvana-paradise.

How does this fit to a GOD FLOATING over the sea?

More shall come if my spiritual condition allows.

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SAMSARA - NIRVANA - cling to each other

In this enlightened BUDDHAHOOD state that anyone can theorically achieve by own efforts and preexisting abilities like buddha nature the NIRVANA, the inner freedom means simple the exemption from the conditional world called SAMSARA, which is the conditional world existing only in our imagination that causes pain due to our compulsive spiritual attachment or adherence to false premises, dualistic ideas, fears and hopes, changing conditions and false premises of the own EGO, SAMSARA is described as endless world-cycle of painful and conditional experienes. Only then we understand why NIRVANA is unclear translated as „great quenching“, it turns around „exemption from evil conditional thoughts and not from feelings, experiences, personality or happiness in general.

In contrary in turns around bringing out the best of mankind to its full enlightenment, values, love, mercy and empathy and realisation about an inconditional permanent true condition of the clear spirit as a boundless candor.

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COMPARISONS

Comparsion 1- House built on sand

I would compare the SAMSARA notion for the beginning - in a limping comparison of course - with the biblical „house that is built on sand, and not built on permanent positive values or treasures with God.“ Samsara would in my comparison be then a whole WORLD built on sand, built on false premises and veiled spirit. True values and happiness would be found only then in the House of Nirvana, the world-House of values and clear spirit of boundless spirit. If you like kingdom-spirit (NIRVANA) against wordly spirit (SAMSARA)

Note: It turns around spiritual conditions in our mind.