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  Blood is healthy

  by TheWonderofYou in

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  https://www.newscientist.com/article/2112829-blood-from-human-teens-rejuvenates-body-and-brains-of-old-mice/.

  the key to youth appears to be in the blood plasma – the liquid part of blood.

  several studies have found that injecting plasma from young mice into old mice can help rejuvenate the brain and other organs, including the liver, heart, and muscle.. blood has the power to turn back time.

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  and regarding to blood manipulation in the atonement ritual that was only a religious ritual that served as a single part in the whole complex of "sin-covering"-and "forgiving".

  The achieved atonement was not meant to be "legally" payment for sins towards god as JW see it. - "you kill the animal and thats it, the payment for the sin" No, It was rather a religious ritual to come closer to god together with priest, family and friends during a festival, a holiday meal (like at shabbat) because sacrifice in hebrew means since always not a "payment" or "ransom" but it means a "gift" for god that, to come close to him, atonement doesnt turn around a juristical ransom but about loving relationship with god.

  Therefore the bloody community sacrifives were ALONE not enough to shop repentance for unwillingly sins. But only together with forgivness and reversion and consious repentance it was seen as effecitve way of jewish Teshuva = repentance

  Note: Bloody sacrifice were only a part of teshuva, without reversion actually not effecitve.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance_in_Judaism
  
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  Blood is healthy

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  https://www.newscientist.com/article/2112829-blood-from-human-teens-rejuvenates-body-and-brains-of-old-mice/.

  the key to youth appears to be in the blood plasma – the liquid part of blood.

  several studies have found that injecting plasma from young mice into old mice can help rejuvenate the brain and other organs, including the liver, heart, and muscle.. blood has the power to turn back time.

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  ..and as far as I remember human blood was biblically never forbidden, it was rabbinically forbidden only because it could be mixed with animal blood which was designated only to serve as atonement under the altar as far as it was killed ceremonially in the temple and the fresh blood poured out. But biblically human blood is not forbidden.

  But mankind had not yet discovered the optimal solution for usage of human blood for its destination as lifesafer and lifeforce in medicine.

  The wise biblical commandments of Genesis and Leviticus, which are not based on human superstition .."aaahhh blood" ....allow human blood to be used to safe life.

  Christians who are not superstitious are already now allowed to use blood fractions to save lives after all.
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  Blood is healthy

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  https://www.newscientist.com/article/2112829-blood-from-human-teens-rejuvenates-body-and-brains-of-old-mice/.

  the key to youth appears to be in the blood plasma – the liquid part of blood.

  several studies have found that injecting plasma from young mice into old mice can help rejuvenate the brain and other organs, including the liver, heart, and muscle.. blood has the power to turn back time.

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  TheWonderofYou

  https://www.newscientist.com/article/2112829-blood-from-human-teens-rejuvenates-body-and-brains-of-old-mice/

  The key to youth appears to be in the blood plasma – the liquid part of blood. Several studies have found that injecting plasma from young mice into old mice can help rejuvenate the brain and other organs, including the liver, heart, and muscle.

  Blood has the power to turn back time. So vampirism is not at all a lie.

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  German article in "fringe science"

  http://www.grenzwissenschaft-aktuell.de/mythos-junges-blut-verjuengt20161124/
  

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  Is then "blood" in a complete other sense as we learned the "seat of life"? Is it a lifebearer and lifegiver itself? But would blood then not be a lifegiver like God was, his concurrent and the secret source or key to eternal life? A key to eternal life that mankind should lately discover in itself, lifeforce in the body? A divine present that is in our midst and that is placed in our body and should be once discoverd? It sound utopian like a similiar story about the stemcell-therapy story or the story about nearly eternal living creatures like medusa etc. that circled around some time ago.

  But in the case of blood transfusion, that would be interesting, if we would transfuse the "life" of another person into our body in this new sense, wouldnt we somehow share our "lifeforce"? Before developping further this new thought we should ask the realists how much substance these "scientific" articles have.

  Perhaps we make a list with all potential animals with eternal life already discovered.

  Cofty has certainly an answer.
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  So the governing body is NOT inspired...are they still "spirit directed"?

  by NikL in

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  okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.

  yet, they are still using the baptism questions.

  the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".

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  Yes of course,...in the notion of JW the phrase "is not inspired" means that God doesnt dictate us what we write or say (God dictated only directly the words of the bible writers in their notion) ...[nothing new].. wherease of course the phrase "spirit directed", means that the spirit directed us to find the right decision for the benefit of the preaching work in our office as ruling authority e.g. the spirit directed the GB lately in the decision to withdraw from New York and to invest in Warwick. [also not new]

  "spirit anointed" however means the the privilege of partaking at the memorial of Jesus death as a brother of christ.

  The spirit doesnt dictate the GB what to do but triggers and unleashes a certain holy useful activity in them. The GB is used by jesus to create and trigger useful explanations about knowledge of truth, what is a process of historical growth.

  The clarifcations of doctrine has never been a process where the GB ALONE decided without asking the brotherhood about their opinon.
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  Can any deity be used in manipulation?

  by schnell in

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  pale.emperor made an interesting observation in another thread:.

  the "blocking an expression of gods love" crap is a sneaky tactic to make the shunner not feel like they're doing something evil.

  cults do that.

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  Lesson of the ancient Roman Empire: Although they accepted the idea of one god/one cesar they were polytheists at the same time. (?) ..
  It is to be considered that the people of ancient greece and rome were religious polytheists, monotheism was only a matter of philosophy (science) not of
  daily life and religion. So the idea that there is only one divine principle was known but had no effect in religion. But the Emporer August was clever enough to called himself God. So he had absolute power.

  The decline of prosperity, security and unity of Empire was clearly accompanied by loss of faith in Rome's traditional gods and – at least in the West – in Roman emperors. For some Romans, this was caused by the neglect of traditional religious practices. For others – equally Roman – breakdown of empire was God's judgment on faithless or heretical Christians and hardened pagans alike.

  As Roman society evolved, so did cult to emperors: both proved remarkably resilient and adaptable. Until its confrontation by fully developed Christian orthodoxy, "Imperial cult" needed no systematic or coherent theology. Its part in Rome's continued success was probably sufficient to justify, sanctify and "explain" it to most Romans.[259][260] Confronted with crisis in Empire, Constantine matched the Augustan achievement by absorbing Christian monotheism into the Imperial hierarchy. Cult to emperors was not so much abolished or abandoned as transformed out of recognition.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult_(ancient_Rome)
  

  
  

  
  

  

  

  Follow the google book

  Violence in Ancient Christianity: Victims and Perpetrators

  https://books.google.at/books?id=OU_3AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=polyarchie+polytheism&source=bl&ots=ikQ8XQKpWe&sig=028RRicwkuK9xtSGZGIAKM1g7FY&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP9Zr9qrrQAhUKthoKHbvVAawQ6AEISjAI#v=onepage&q=polyarchie%20polytheism&f=false
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  Article: Public event in Laval to honour Jehovah's Witness who died after giving birth

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/dupuis-memorial-jehovahs-witness-1.3857367.

  public event in laval to honour jehovah's witness who died after giving birth.

  éloïse dupuis refused emergency blood transfusion, now her aunt wants civil code amended to protect others.

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  Thanks for the information.
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  Can any deity be used in manipulation?

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  pale.emperor made an interesting observation in another thread:.

  the "blocking an expression of gods love" crap is a sneaky tactic to make the shunner not feel like they're doing something evil.

  cults do that.

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  TheWonderofYou

  Indeed the notion of a monarchian God reigning over us leads to monarchic type of rules. The monotheisitic and monarchic god needs earthly mediators, representatives e.g. a king or a monarch who performs and reflects the reign of the god. Absolutism was such a type of rulership, where the monotheistic prinicple of Allmightiness shaped the rulership. And man-ipulation (when man take something in its hands) lead to abuse of power. The roman empire got a monarchy. Throught the

  Monotheisums leads to Monarchy

  Polytheisum leads to Polyarchy

  Trinity then to Triarchy?
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  Why didn't God also reveal himself to the Canaanites just as he did to Moses in the burning bush?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
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  why didn't god also reveal himself to the canaanites just as he did to moses in the burning bush so that the massacre/genocide of the canaanites could have been avoided?.

  why didn't god also invite the native palestinians into his covenant, giving them the same laws he gave the israelites, and establish an egalitarian society where people of all races could live together in harmony?.

  instead, he ordered his people to invade and slaughter the natives, killing them to the last man, woman and child, specifically instructing them to show no mercy to anyone under any circumstances.

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  Moabite queen

  
  
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  Blood Ban Not Going Away Anytime Soon

  by baldeagle in

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  2. medical

  at the recent circuit assembly in our area (nov 19/2016) a talk was given in the afternoon entitled “jehovah will resurrect the dead” it’s clear that the prohibition on blood is not going away anytime soon.

  many of us here have expressed the hope that this death dealing policy would be softened or become a complete conscience matter.

  not the case, jw’s are urged to not give in and to focus on the resurrection hope.

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  TheWonderofYou

  Hence, for Christians, shunning (e.m) blood included not taking it in for “medical” reasons. They maintained that stand even if it put their life at risk.

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2004445#h=12

  
  

  "Shunning Blood ", "Blood ban", "Avoided Blood" "Abstain from Blood", "sacrality of Blood", "life-sustaining-Role of blood" "nourishes the body"."is dangerous", "not healthy" , "makes someone animalistic", "eating life of another being not allowed" "only Jesus' blood is lifesafing".. some reasons for abstaining from blood.....the terminology issue.

  Blood is to avoid and to shun like those who dont apostates or doubters who dont go to the meetings anylonger or are disfellowshipped. Contact with both only under risk of loosing eternal life.
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  Why didn't God also reveal himself to the Canaanites just as he did to Moses in the burning bush?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why didn't god also reveal himself to the canaanites just as he did to moses in the burning bush so that the massacre/genocide of the canaanites could have been avoided?.

  why didn't god also invite the native palestinians into his covenant, giving them the same laws he gave the israelites, and establish an egalitarian society where people of all races could live together in harmony?.

  instead, he ordered his people to invade and slaughter the natives, killing them to the last man, woman and child, specifically instructing them to show no mercy to anyone under any circumstances.

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  The jewish bible (called in hebrew "Tanach") has another order as christian bibles.

  The Tanach is divided into three parts called in hebrew

  1. 5 Books of Moses called Chumash (=fifth) [five fifths] also known as Pentateuch ( 5 books) or often referred to as the "Torah" (= Mosaic Law in JW-language),[[but Torah doesnt mean law in the sense of an federal state laws but rather "basic guidance".
  2. 8 Books of the prophets called Nevi'im (hebrew Prophet) including the 12 minor prophets
  3. 11 Books of the writings called Kesu'vim (hebrew Writing)
     
     

  This was the bible as known to Jesus Christ and the apostels in the first century.

  As you see the books follow a different order than in christian bibles of today.

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  >>>Now my question for all knowers of jewish liturgy.
  In the jewish liturgy the torah is read weekly in the synagogues.
  Are the other parts of the bible the prophets and writings also part of the weekly liturgical readings at the synagogue? Was it always so and how was it in former times?
  
  If a jew visits regularly the synagogue would he ever hear a portion of the prophets or scriptures or only the laws/Torah portions.