Posts by TheWonderofYou

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

TheWonderofYou

Awake 1968 The increase of lawlessness,,, the 1968 generation was a rebellious one.

1968 protests .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_of_1968

This is my assumption: JW interpreted this lawlessness of the 1968 as a certain sign of the nearing of the end besides the chronology. So JW again are only reacting on the world events

like also Rutherford reacted on the great depression 1919 and the release of prison of WT-direcots, the fear facists, the fear of communists and the cooperation between dictators and the church.
all his thelogy are reaction on the world events. ikewise the 1914 theology was seen true after the world war - a reaction on world events. Each horrible world event was interpreted as sign of end.

ENDURANCE meant for granpa in reality: forget your former friends, who left because they did believe in dates or have been excommunicated because they stumbled, forget them, dont speak with them, they became apostates, they are not our friends, those date-believing apostates. Now believe in the new explanation that we got from the slave, namely that "some JW believed in dates and were not true christians".

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Is this the end of blood donation? Scientists close to unlimited supply from stem cells

by TTaTT4U in

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/17/end-blood-donationscientists-close-unlimited-supply-stem-cells/.

sarah knapton, science editor .

17 may 2017 • 6:00pmblood donors may no longer be needed in the future after scientists showed it was possible to create blood from stem cells.. the 20 year project could pave the way for an unlimited number of blood and immune cells for transplants, simply by reprogramming a patient’s own skin cells.. the research, reported in the journal nature, holds out enormous promise for developing personalised treatments for blood disorders, drug-screening and reducing shortages of donated blood.. dr ryohichi sugimura, of boston children's hospital, said: "this gives us the potential to have a limitless supply of blood stem cells and blood by taking cells from universal donors.

TheWonderofYou

This may be a similar or competitive research on red blood cells from stem cells

http://www.haematologica.org/content/early/2014/10/14/haematol.2014.108068

Isabel Dorn, Katharina Klich, Marcos J. Arauzo-Bravo, Martina Radstaak, Simon Santourlidis,
Foued Ghanjati, Teja F. Radke, Olympia E. Psathaki, Gunnar Hargus, Jan Kramer, Martin Einhaus,
Jeong B. Kim, Gesine Koegler, Peter Wernet, Hans R. Schöler, Peter Schlenke, Holm Zaehres

Peter Schlenke /Graz and Isabel Dorn

Univ. Dr. Peter Schlenke, Member of the Board of the University Clinic for Blood Group Serology and Transfusion Medicine, Medical University of Graz, has recently been awarded a prize at the 48th anniversary of the German Society for Transfusion Medicine and Immunohematology, in recognition of his outstanding and innovative research in the field of immunohematology and related disciplines Basel with the Philip Levine Award. The prize of EUR 10,000.00 is awarded for two years to the memory of Philip Levine, an American immunologist and hematologist, and an outstanding pioneer of blood serum serology. https://www.medunigraz.at/neues/detail/news/blut-grazer-spitzenforschung/

Artificial blood substitute in the center of Graz's research
For a long time, the committed scientist, who has just moved from Germany to Austria last year, and his team work on the artificial generation of red blood cells (erythrocytes) from adult, fetal and so-called inducible pluripotent stem cells. This basic-oriented research is of interest not only for a possible "artificial" blood substitute, but also serves for a better understanding of non-malignant diseases of the red blood cells (eg, sickle kinaemia, thalassemia)
Peter Schlenke and his life partner Isabel Dorn, who wants to "get going" in spring 2016 in Graz, are researching the pathophysiological connections between the haemolytic-gland and the human body, together with scientists from the Institute for Hygiene at the University of Münster (Prof. Helge Karch, Prof. Johannes Müthing) Uraemic syndrome, a feared complication of infection with enterohemorrhagic Escherichia coli, the shigatoxin of which may inhibit the formation of red blood cells (erythropoiesis).

http://www.lifescienceaustria.at/stammzellforschung-rote-blutkoerperchen-wachsen-im-labor-klinischer-einsatz-ohne-infektionsrisiko-als-zukunftsvision/

http://www.haematologica.org/content/early/2014/10/14/haematol.2014.108068

https://www.medunigraz.at/neues/detail/news/stammzellforschung-rote-blutkoerperchen-aus-dem-labor/

presstext

https://www.medunigraz.at/fileadmin/medunigraz/oeffentlichkeitsarbeit/presse/2014/presse_info_stammzellen1014_versand.pdf

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Im "Going To Die In Armageddon"

by pale.emperor in

3 missed calls from my jw brother last night.

i didnt answer because he's actively shunning me and when he does ring it always to preach to me about how we're so close to the end and how i should "humble myself before the mighty hand of god" .

he then texts me saying "we need to talk".

TheWonderofYou

FIVE EVENTS TO COME:

Proclamation of “Peace and security!”
Nations attack and destroy “Babylon the Great”
Attack on Jehovah’s people
War of Armageddon
Satan and his demons are abyssed
Should your family not wait for the proclamation of Peace and give you a little time?
Like it was at Jerusalem, first the troups marsh up, draw back and return to destroy. Dont bother, There might be yet a time to flee if Jehovah acts like with Jerusalem.

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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy

by OrphanCrow in

child abuse royal commission: justice mcclellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy.

every major australian church has been cautioned to better protect children or risk illegitimacy.in a speech to the national council of churches, the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse chairman justice peter mcclellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.

"what we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of australians," he said via a recorded video.. read more and watch video of speech (26.02 long) at link:.

TheWonderofYou

OrphanCrow:

Do those who give up their personal power to a god turn around and act out their need for power on those who are the most vulnerable? ...Divine power appears to be a perversion of power.

Certainly a combination of several special conditions in the congregation of JW.

Reminds of the dicussion on this forum lately - in which you gave a good comment too about a perverted POWER and perverted FEAR-atmosphere - started by flipper about "WTS creating atmosphere which spawns child abuse in congregations". Some citations her and much more on this challenging thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5450380668305408/wt-society-creates-atmosphere-which-spawns-child-abuse-congregations

flipper: Then it becomes even more dangerous once one of these predators gets appointed to a power position of elder in a congregation as other JW's are even more intimidated by the power this elder wields and possesses. So if anyone comes out with accusations of child abuse towards an elder- the JW's are trained to doubt the validity of the child abuse charges- because THEY are told " Oh no ! Brother so and so is SPIRITUAL - he wouldn't molest children - he's an elder, or a pioneer ! " You see my point. JW's minds are conditioned to trust too much and give most fellow JW's , especially elders and the GB the benefit of any doubt.
simon: Yes, they are guilty not of the abuse (unless they knew about it and covered it up) but because they create the perfect environment for such abuse and know that they do so.
They put protection of their own position and power and growth of the organization ahead of welfare of the children and for that they are guilty.

LongHairgal: The reason for ALL this is because the Witness religion tries to break down personal boundaries and attempts to erode people's natural instinct of self-preservation. This is done gradually.#

flipper: "SIMON- Very true. WT leaders knowingly put children in danger in order to promote position, power, growth of the organization, and financial wealth of the WT organization while throwing children's welfare to the wind. Very sick."
crow:
And then throw in all the sexual restrictions. The WTS is focused on controlling sexual behavior. Children are given inappropriate information about sex. So are adults.
Then there is the issue of power. Power is woven into the WT structure. Power at the top and filtered down, each rung down with less and less power. Until it stops at the man on the bottom. Women and children are below any level of power. The problem is that it is only an illusion of power. Those men who are given their power from above the ladder, know that they don't really have any. They know, deep inside, that the power they have been given is fake. They know they are powerless. That is reinforced every time they open their mail and get yet another BOE letter telling them in detail what to do. That isn't power and they know it.
A person's self empowerment is critical to emotional and psychological health. It is imprinted in our genes. We must have power to survive. A cult member does not have personal power. They only have the power of the cult. They have none of their own. And they are terrified of the One who has the most power of all - Jehovah.
But, a human being's need for power is fundamental to their nature - each and every one of us must have it in order to feel like we will survive. So, all those powerless people inside the WT's made-up religion, have to, and they will, seek power somewhere. And where better to find power than to take it from those who have no way of protecting their own? From the children. The powerless steal the children's power. Because they can. And because they don't know how to be powerful by themselves - their power has been stolen by the WTS. They have given their power to the cult.

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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy

by OrphanCrow in

child abuse royal commission: justice mcclellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy.

every major australian church has been cautioned to better protect children or risk illegitimacy.in a speech to the national council of churches, the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse chairman justice peter mcclellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.

"what we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of australians," he said via a recorded video.. read more and watch video of speech (26.02 long) at link:.

TheWonderofYou

I already thought the storm moves off and calms down. The commisson would shake its head and find other plenty of work to do. I didnt anticipate this appell to yield to reason.

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Best Website in the world - JWORG

by TheWonderofYou in

jw believe that jworg is the best website and most translated in the world.. i heard this today in streetservice.

there was already a thread about this subject.

anybody can link it?.

TheWonderofYou

JW believe that JWORG is the best website and most translated in the world.

I heard this today in streetservice. There was already a thread about this subject. Anybody can link it?

https://www.tomedes.com/translator-hub/most-translated-website.php

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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers

by BluesBrother in

jw
friends

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.

an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.

in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.

TheWonderofYou

Ruby: i honestly think blood medicine will be replaced by other methods eventually

I found this in a closing statement about PBM by the speakers of the Austrian platform blood, 20.-22th April, 2017

"Aus heutiger Sicht wird die Fremdbluttransfusion noch viele Jahre Standard in unserem medizinischen Leben spielen, da ein der Transfusion gleichwertiger synthetischer Ersatz noch lange nicht erhältlich sein wird."
"From today's point of view, foreign blood transfusion will continue to play a standard role in our medical life for many years as a synthetic substitute that is equivalent to the transfusion will not be available for a long time."
"Vienna blooddays" 2017
http://www.wienerbluttage.at/
(The closing statement is to be find on the bottom of the homepage)

On Saturday 25th Feb. 2017 JW and PBM expert Prof. Dr. Axel Hofmann has lectured about the international experiences on implementation of Patient oriented bloodcare in the practise in one of a series of talks entitled “Etablishing a new golden standard” at a PBM seminary in Austria. Another speaker was his co-author Prof. Spahn from Switzerland, who is also one of the board members of the International Foundation for Patient Blood Management IFPBM.

http://www.anaesthesie.news/2016/12/28/patient-blood-management/

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BBC Panaroma TV - Contaminated Blood: The Search for the Truth

by darkspilver in

fyi.

bbc panaroma tv - contaminated blood: the search for the truth.

10 may 2017. it has been called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs.

TheWonderofYou

Thats the other thread, where my question have been already answered.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4882693948964864/bbc-programme-re-contaminated-blood-dub-blinkers

My question was provocative. But it is difficult to get "the truth" about the subject, the whole picture, really difficult as layman.

bluesbrother: this happened decades ago. A solution was quickly found and the problem should have been minimised . The scandal is the slowness of remedial action and the cover-up.

crow:
And about that "boom in technologies". The technology that the so-called bloodless industry relies on would not exist if not for blood transfusion technology. The entire bloodless industry is built on the back of existing blood technology - without blood transfusions, there would be no bloodless surgery.

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BBC Panaroma TV - Contaminated Blood: The Search for the Truth

by darkspilver in

fyi.

bbc panaroma tv - contaminated blood: the search for the truth.

10 may 2017. it has been called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs.

TheWonderofYou

So JW did us all by resisting and forcing in the research of blood reduction a yet much greater favour.

JW backed the right horse. Is this only explainable by human efforts of a handful of JW - protagonists who convinced the medical society to shift the paradigma from blood transfusion to blood management?

Or wasnt it not much more a bit of Jehovah's spirit behind the human efforts that in our decade such a progress could be achieved? Only asking...

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Bad Blood - when safe blood turns into bad blood - The patients' body reaction

by TheWonderofYou in

despite that the sensational title „bad blood“ was selected to „scare?“ the public.

„bad blood - volte-face in intensive care medicine" by ulricke gehring, 2014. available in english .

its about the fight against public unawareness and resistance.

TheWonderofYou

Berlin 27th April, 2017, Ulrike 'Gehring, journalist was awared by the Berlin Charite and medtronic with the

Media Award, 1 place € 5.000,-) for her film from 2016

"Dangerous bloodtransfusions - what helps against the risk"

http://screenart.tv/portfolio/gefaehrliche-bluttransfusionen/

http://wwwp.medtronic.com/Newsroom/NewsReleaseDetails.do?itemId=1494240525538&lang=de_DE

Further she reports that during the recherche for her other film "Bad Blood" much resistance occured:

.....Naturally, blood reserves would be used further because they saved lives, but a rethinking would have to take place in the future. This also includes the so-called "Patient Blood Management", which is intended to reduce the use of blood clots.
"During the research we have experienced massive resistance, Ulrike Gehring was said to belong to Jehovah's Witnesses. In addition, members of the Red Cross were forbidden to speak with us, "argues Streit.
http://www.allgemeine-zeitung.de/lokales/mainz/nachrichten-mainz/emotionen-geweckt-dialoge-angestossen-preisgekroente-journalisten-stellen-ihre-arbeiten-beim-mainzer-presseclub-vor_17733817.htm