Posts by Emery

I helped my mom, dad, sibblings, sister's husband, wife, wife's sister, and 6 other friends. A total of 15 so far. I am currently working on an old roomate of mine, we've gotten pretty far and he admitted that he doesn't really believe in anything anymore. I take different approaches with different people. Whether it be theological, the problem of suffering, problems in the congregation, JW history, etc. The number 1 thing that continues to help me are the clusterfucks by the elders. The hypocrisy and double standards found in congregations alone help do most of the footwork.

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The Watchtower is Over....Jehovah is Ovah!!!!((Please Read))

by Joliette in

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no more assemblies or conventions.... no more service meetings, book studies, bible studies..... no more bethelites, gilead graduates, no more missionary work.. no more watchtower studies, field service, pioneers, elders, ministerial servants.. no more 'serving where the need is great.'.

its over, its over.. the watchtower has decided to end it all, suspend the organization work.

no more money.

Emery

The organization is tribal, the fanatical JWs would just create another similar organization.

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Faithfull Slave Teaching Leaves something out!

by DeWandelaar in

for years the so-called faithfull slave has brainwashed us with their doctrine.

number 6 the possessions?

according to the text only the servants are being inspected!

Emery

Also, there is no concept of the Master communicating his wishes or will via channel to the slave in his absence.

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How much money did you give the Watchtower?

by Emery in

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when you were a believer did you give large donations to the society?

if so how much did you give?

i know an elder who's a chiropractor and he generously gives $400-800 a month to the society.

Emery

When you were a believer did you give large donations to the Society? If so how much did you give? I know an elder who's a Chiropractor and he generously gives $400-800 a month to the Society. I’d hate to be that guy if he ever learns the TTATT.

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jw.org store in Rouen, France

by breakfast of champions in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.

naaaahh.

we're not a business.

Emery

I made a comment about it looking like a Scientology shop, let see how they react haha.

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jw.org store in Rouen, France

by breakfast of champions in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.

naaaahh.

we're not a business.

Emery

Why hasn't anyone dropped any aposta-bombs in the Facebook comments? Im tempted to shine some light on these peoples!

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'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - SATURDAY AUDIO

by mindnumbed in

9:30 song no.106 and prayer.

11:00 song no.

12:10 song no.

Emery

frankiespeakin is right. How could a corporation do this? I mean there are laws and provisions made to protect people from harassment and abuse at the work place, but not at the church?

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Bart Ehrman: Paul Viewed Jesus Christ as an Angel.

by Emery in

in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.

since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.

there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .

Emery

@sir82, that's exactly what I thought as soon as I finished reading it. This will feed their confirmation bias for sure. The Watchtower will still have to reconile the epistle to the Hebrews where there's a detailed argument for Christ being greater than the angels, however. Ehrman agrees that the author of Hebrews was reacting against and correcting an earlier angelic christology, such as the one held by Paul.

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Bart Ehrman: Paul Viewed Jesus Christ as an Angel.

by Emery in

in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.

since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.

there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .

Emery

In his upcomming book, "How Jesus Became God" Bart Ehrman has a new view on how Paul viewed Jesus. Since I am a huge Bart Ehrman fan I am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/

There he made a recent blog entry where he argues that Paul viewed Jesus to be an angel according to Galations 4:14.

"Even though my bodily condition was a test for you, you did not mock or despise me, but you received me as an angel of God, as Jesus Christ."

To preview his argument, he writes:

" I had always simply read the verse to say that the Galatians had received Paul in his infirm state the way they would have received an angelic visitor, or even Christ himself. But in fact the grammar of the Greek is suggesting something quite different. As the Gieschen has argued, and has now been affirmed in a book on Christ as an angel by New Testament specialist Susan Garrett, the verse is not saying that the Galatians received Paul as an angel or as Christ; it is saying that they received him as they would an angel, such as Christ. By clear implication, then, Christ is an angel.

As I indicated, the reason for reading the verse this way has to do with the Greek grammar. When Paul uses the construction “but as … as” he is not contrasting two things; he is stating that the two things are the same thing. We know this because Paul uses this grammatical construction in a couple of other places in his writings, and the meaning in these cases is unambiguous. For example, in 1 Corinthians 3:1 Paul says this: “Brothers, I was not able to speak to you as spiritual people, but as fleshly people, as infants in Christ.” The last bit “but as…as” indicates two identifying features of the recipients of Paul’s letter: they are fleshly people and they are infants in Christ. These are not two contrasting statements; they modify each other. The same can be said of Paul’s comments in 2 Cor. 2:17, which also has this grammatical feature."

Of course he continues to add to this argument on his blog site. Anyways, I was very surprised that Bart, along with several other scholars (which he mentions) are in agreement that Jesus was a Pre-existent angel according to Paul.