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  Will we ever see another Ray Franz?

  by Emery in

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  will we ever see another governing body member leave the organization like ray franz did and speak out against them?.

  one can only imagine the kind of dirt that's been concealed behind those gb sessions since the 1980's.. what are your thoughts?.

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  Emery

  Will we ever see another Governing Body member leave the Organization like Ray Franz did and speak out against them?

  One can only imagine the kind of dirt that's been concealed behind those GB sessions since the 1980's.

  What are your thoughts?
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  Now That You're Out Of "The Truth" What Do You Do With All The Extra Time?

  by minimus in

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  life is so short and being a witness is such a waste of valuable time.. now, i do not feel rushed or compelled to be at a meeting or out in field service.

  much less stress!.

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  I am still in but no longer study for the meetings or go out in service as much. Just show up for the meeting, associate, and leave. With the free time ive gained has been placed on sleeping and hang out time with the Wifey.
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  Candace Conti's Rap Sheet

  by Bangalore in

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  candace conti's rap sheet.. http://www.jw-archive.org/2012/07/candace-contis-rap-sheet-just-for.html.

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  Emery

  Thats a total ad hominem attack. What does that have to do with getting abused by a pedobear and it being covered up by the WTS?
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  For those still in, what makes you feel like a witness and what doesn't?

  by Hermano in

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  i've noticed when i exercise regularly i feel thin, regardless of my weight.

  this led me to think about how behavior, thoughts and feelings are tied together.

  so for those of you still in what activities or thoughts make you feel like a witness?

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  Emery

  Great question.

  Things that make me feel like a Witness:

  • I still view political affairs the same way as JWs do.
  • The non-belief of Hellfire, the state of the dead, and the Trinity still reside strong in me.
  • Still very cautious of association that leads down the wrong path socially and spiritually.
  • Still will not celebrate holidays like Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc.
  • Still believe in Jehovah and Jesus Christ.

  The things that are not so witness like:

  • I don't believe in a 2 class system of christians.
  • I am a Non-fundamentalist. I dont believe the bible is entirely the infallible/inerrant inspired word of God (but still a believer)
  • I no longer hold a judgemental attitude towards the world. If Jehovah is a fair and just God how could he destroy people because of their ignorance or because they didnt want to read a religious recruiting magazine?
  • Many spiritual persons have existed throughout history who believed in the Trinity, Hellfire, and etc. To think people will be destroyed because of their understanding/interpretation of scripture in an imperfect world is ridiculous.
  • Birthdays are no different than wedding/marriage anniversaries. I probably still wont have a cake and candles but I believe its fine to give gifts.
  • Don't believe the world is gonna end in a battle of Armageddon.
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  Hello ~ New Here.

  by witnomore in

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  although i haven't been a witness for over 20 years, it has taken me that long to finally feel brave enough to join another church (aka christendom) and begin researching my past beliefs.

  all this research has opened a few old wounds, but mostly liberated me from a lot of quilt.

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  Emery

  Welcome Witnomore!

  Any religion, sect, or organization that stresses authority and hierarchy are not following the basic principles of Christianity. Research is what lead me out and as mentioned above, releases you from the guilt that is indoctrinated in to you.
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  Thought Reform and the Psychology of the 'Safeguard Your Heart!' 2012 Convention

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. beliefs

  to make attendance at my second district convention "mentally out" both a little more bearable and meaningful, i decided to take some notes of key points as if i were an outsider studying the thought reform methods of jehovah's witnesses.

  at first, i was only going to share these notes with my therapist, but inspired by the "parsing the watchtower double-speak" thread, i figured i would share my amateur analysis with everyone.

  here are some of the highlights:.

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  @thecrushed

  That's technically what you call fundamentalism. This commentary by John Dominic Crossan is what comes to mind.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f0ZHaoSnf0
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  Thought Reform and the Psychology of the 'Safeguard Your Heart!' 2012 Convention

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to make attendance at my second district convention "mentally out" both a little more bearable and meaningful, i decided to take some notes of key points as if i were an outsider studying the thought reform methods of jehovah's witnesses.

  at first, i was only going to share these notes with my therapist, but inspired by the "parsing the watchtower double-speak" thread, i figured i would share my amateur analysis with everyone.

  here are some of the highlights:.

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  This analysis was very helpful and encouraging during my convention, thanks BOC.
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  What was the last great deal you got?

  by Chemical Emotions in

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  2. friends

  i'm leaving this pretty open, but the last great deal i got was a new-quality steif plush (about $70 dollar value, i'd optimistically guess, when it was new).

  for about 2 or 3 bucks.

  at a yard sale i think.

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  Emery

  well now that Elderelite said somthing, I will have to say switching to USAA was the best deal ive gotten on insurance and banking in a loooong time.
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  The Blood Doctrine and Children

  by Emery in

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  i made a promise to myself long ago that if i ever had kids they were not to get baptized at an early age (18 or younger).

  something as serious as baptism needed to be heavily meditated on with a mature mindset.

  permanent vows such as this are no different than a marriage vow and need to be made when they themselves are out of their bloom of youth.. while mentally submersed in wts doctrine i had ongoing debates with myself regarding the blood doctrine.

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  Emery

  I made a promise to myself long ago that if I ever had kids they were not to get baptized at an early age (18 or younger). Something as serious as baptism needed to be heavily meditated on with a mature mindset. Permanent vows such as this are no different than a marriage vow and need to be made when they themselves are out of their “bloom of youth”.

  While mentally submersed in WTS doctrine I had ongoing debates with myself regarding the blood doctrine. Thinking about the decision I would make if I had a child in an emergency blood transfusion situation.

  I really wondered if Jehovah God would condemn me if I decided to allow my child to have a blood transfusion. Not because I had a lack of faith in the resurrection, doctrine, or even the emotional turmoil associated with it. It was because the child would not be baptized and/or have a full understanding of the matter. Children don’t understand the 1919 doctrine, the 1914 calculation, or even the bible for that matter! Yet they are to die “AS” a mature dedicated Jehovah’s Witness because their daddy was burdened with theological blood guilt?

  Who was I to decide another human’s fate? I believed these decisions belonged to each individual human WHEN they are capable of thinking and deciding theological decisions on their own. Just because they are my child or a baby…doesn’t give me that right.

  If my child later realized they no longer wanted to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I would have robbed them of a life that they had the right to live, regardless of beliefs. I reflect on this old debate now knowing the TTATT.

  Reversing roles, I began thinking….how disgustingly unfair it would’ve been had my parents allowed me to die knowing what I know now about the organization. I began seeing now the dangers of becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  I had this conversation with a Pioneer sister some time ago. She reasoned, “Well there’s no guarantee that the baby would even live with a blood transfusion and then you would be placed in a bad position before Jehovah (Organization). Plus remember we can always rely on the resurrection.”

  I sat there kind of bewildered. Not because I didn’t disagree with her at the time but because she gave me a very canned response to the question. I felt that the answer she just parroted off to me was a very cheap and disrespectful way of answering a very intricate and delicate matter. This, along with the FDS 1919 doctrine is what had me on my way out emotionally and mentally.
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  untitled

  by jeffbloomfield in

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  i am an atheist and have been for a few years.

  i was in the troof for about 10 years, and am so glad to be a sinner now.

  good to meet you all..

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  Emery

  Welcome fellow noob pal.