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Posts by Emery
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34Apostate Symposium 2013 San Diego District Convention
by problemaddict insorry i did not get audio.
too much going on around me that would give me away anyways.
i think someone posted audio, but it is different from what i heard on some levels.
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Emery
Yup had the same CO talk just recently, had to be the most boring CO talk I have ever witnessed.
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YouTube... the best place to awaken JWs
by Calebs Airplane init's clear that dubs in general eventually forget to heed the counsel of the wt as regards viewing spiritually "dangerous" material on the internet.
this is evident by the thousands of uploaded videos of assemblies, conventions, caleb videos, kh weddings, kingdom melodies, etc.
that can be found on youtube and other similar sites.
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YouTube started my awakening.
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Do any of you know of a religion that does not believe in the Trinoity?
by orbison11 ini have such internal conflict on the trinity,,,i do not believe it,,,i dont know if it is jw brainwashing.
or if logically thinking applies here.
help :).
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Mormons.
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What would it take for YOU to come back?
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a spot on the Governing Body.
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The only thing a JW needs to know to be set free from their religion
by yadda yadda 2 inbillions of human beings right now are muslims, hindus, buddhists, etc, etc.
they do not know a jot about 'jehovah' or the 'watchtower bible & tract society of new york" etc etc.
what is going to happen to these billions of persons at armageddon?.
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@ADCMS, oh I know :)
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The only thing a JW needs to know to be set free from their religion
by yadda yadda 2 inbillions of human beings right now are muslims, hindus, buddhists, etc, etc.
they do not know a jot about 'jehovah' or the 'watchtower bible & tract society of new york" etc etc.
what is going to happen to these billions of persons at armageddon?.
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I would simply say, "The WatchTower apostasized from God before, during, and after 1919 through false prophecies. They are not God's chosen organization."
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Can losing faith in God be a disfellowshipping offense?
by Emery ini have been pondering this question for awhile.
say a person during a shepherding visit with the elders were to simply state that they had lost their faith in god because of the subject of suffering-- would the elders still have grounds to disfellowship them even if the person did not actually commit a sinful offense?
instead of diving into all the errors, false prophecies, and lies advanced by the organization can somebody simply say, "i have lost faith in jehovah" and walk away without being publically denounced?
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TheOldHippie, I wanted to know how elders would possibly react towards someone who becomes inactive because of lost faith. I will agree that if you're disrespectful and militant in your disbelief they will feel threatened. If you show a sincere and loving attitude, without disrespecting the bible, the elders, or the God they worship I think you can walk away. I am having a hard time seeing lost faith resulting in judicial action if you voice these issues respecfully. I have been researching possible arguments for this and I have found 2 scriptures elders may use against this.
Hebrews 11:6 - And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
Revelation 3:16 - So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
These scriptures of course I've found to be within the context of God's final judgment, not congregational decisions in the here and now. However, this scripture could be used in defense of having lost faith.
Romans 14: 1, 4 - " Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters . Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. "
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Can losing faith in God be a disfellowshipping offense?
by Emery ini have been pondering this question for awhile.
say a person during a shepherding visit with the elders were to simply state that they had lost their faith in god because of the subject of suffering-- would the elders still have grounds to disfellowship them even if the person did not actually commit a sinful offense?
instead of diving into all the errors, false prophecies, and lies advanced by the organization can somebody simply say, "i have lost faith in jehovah" and walk away without being publically denounced?
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What if you say that you haven't completely ruled God out of your life but that you're struggling to sustain faith in a world with so much suffering? In their minds, this may leave the door indefinitely open for a return. I remember reading a situation where a JW made it known that he had lost his faith but was not disciplined because no gross sin was committed before God. They did have a local needs talk about it and word got around that the guy was bad association.
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If there really is no God...
by Monsieur inif there really is no god, then man really only has himself to blame for all this mess.... .
blaming god or satan would only seem like a cop - out, and an excuse for opression.. man may not be able to stop a tsunami or a hurricane, but we can absolutely stop wars and opression, violence and hatred.. come on people!!!
why is this so difficult to accomplish when we have the capacity to do so???
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I thought about this as well but in a positive light. IF there is no God, humans inherently know what good is, what morality is, what good ethics are, and everything else that has been written in the bible and attributed to God. The concept that man has no moral compass outside of God is a lie.