Posts by BU2B

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THANK YOU TONY!!!!!

by nowwhat? in

in my previous post, i mentioned i am now out but wanted to go to the branch meeting anyway.

i am so thank ful i did!

if there was any lingering doubt that i was making the right decision, tony's rants gave me total clarity.

I asked my wife if discussing tight pants and punctuality are more important matters to address than showing love and kindness to others, something that is fading by the month among JWs. I told her that that talk will only make the controlling elder bodies, and judgemental gossipers worse. Elders will "MAN UP" and talk to people about their clothing choices.

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Inactive ones are bloodguilty?

by dissonance_resolved in

i've been thinking about brother morris' statement at the zone meeting this past weekend that inactive ones are bloodguilty.

bloodguilt is defined as "guilty of murder or manslaughter.

" murder is #1 on the list of disfellowshipping offenses- all they would have to do is change the wording from "murder" to "bloodguilt" and suddenly there you have grounds to disfellowship anyone who's inactive.

BU2B

His talk will spawn a new wave of judgementalism, rule making and gossip among uber dubs. Just imagine the gossip if a sister wants to marry a nice brother, but he is not a MS yet. Imagine everyone trying to discourage it because something must be wrong with his spirituality. Now they have AMIII talk as ammo.

Imagine hateful the gossip of sisters discussing others clothing choices. This was already prevalent, but now will be worse since they wil feel justified after that talk. Imagine if sisters see another sister in the park jogging IN JOGGING PANTS! THE SCANDAL! THE HORROR!

Now peoples SPIRITUALITY will be judged openly by others.

I asked my wife, who sees the lack of love among JWs if wearing tight pants or being on time is more important than treating people like crap? The pharisees dressed modestly, yet were judgemental, merciless cruel people. The GB only cares about outward things- Tight pants, cleavge, FS time, not watching certain movies etc.. But do not seem to care about how people treat one another or loving one another.

Tony the turd says a god of understanding and mercy is "not the God he knows" which explains his insensitve, biting words. If he is one of "Christs Brothers" then he is Cain out of the group.

What is more disturbing is that I am beginning to get the distinct feeling that this tyrant is the new "Don" of the GB, the head honcho. This makes sense since he seems to have the most dominant abrasive way about him. The blood ban, child abuse issue, etc will never change with such a heartless man at the helm. Compare him to men like Sydlik, Barr, and Swingle. Even though these men were responsible for some bad things, they at least came across as loving and caring. In the case of Swingle, Ray Franz said he agreed with him on most things, but would not stand up like he did. Swingle was sympathetic to Franz. Of course you still had your unloving hard asses like Barber and Jaracz.

Nowadays from my perspective, the GB seems to be filled with either Buffoons and wierdos like Lett and Splane, Yes men like Sanderson, and strict pharisees like Morris. Just like on elder bodies, usually the most dominant personality rules, so it would make sense the GB would be the same.

If Morris is in control of the GB the increasingly controlling tone in the WT makes sense. For chrissakes The conclusion of his talk was him SCREAMING OBEY THE FAITHFUL SLAVE and BE BLESSED! I told my wife that it made me feel uncomfortable because he essentially said OBEY ME AND YOU GET TO LIVE! The arrogance is getting worse. He reminds me of a despotic dictator growing more tyrannical and narcissistic over time. The rhetoric will only grow worse.

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Got ratted out for celebrating Halloween...

by cognac in

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one of two things will happen.

i'll get disfellowshipped and never have to worry about being "told on" again for living a normal life, or; they won't do anything.. either way, it's freeing and i feel relieved... it will be sad if i get disfellowshipped but i've come to terms and made peace with it as much as can be expected.

it's a huge weight to have off.. was told on a week ago and haven't heard anything.

BU2B

Just deny it. Use the trusty 2 witness rule to your advantage!

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US Zone visit

by obarac in

anyone will atend?.

how we can follow this meeting?.

anyone will inform us live?.

BU2B

Saying that if you don't push yourself and have a full share in the FS theN god will look down and see blood on your hands and kill you is the ultimate guilt trip.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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BU2B

Wow boc- that's good progress.

i am actually happy Morris did not give an upbuilding talk. I don't think he could anyways, and every talk I have ever heard has been condescending, critical and hateful.

I notice little things that give insight onto a persons character. When he was talking about bible studies being being down, ddf anyone notice how he said how they TRIEDto simplify the reporting system for you! He said it with such a manipulative tone.

Also at the end when he yelled out how obedient people in the new world will have LISTEN TO GOD, OBEY THE FDS, AND BE BLESSED AND LIVE FOREVER! It was creepy to have him essentially saying. OBEY ME AND YOU WILL GET TO LIVE FOREVER! And this after his opinionated hateful rant. What right does he have to say you can't wear workout clotWes while working out!! Omg.

The worst part was him saying ahow if you don't marry a MS or elder you are not spiritual, and the marriage is doomed! How is that even said?? Or the father of 7 lamenting his 2 youngest, WHO WERE STILL WITNESSES, just because they did not SERVE they were failures. I wonder how many felt like walking out. I wonder what JWs truly feel about that talk. No mention of mercy etc. he set the stage now for even more judgemental ism among the JW rank and file and elders. People Weill now feel justified in being hateful and petty, gossiping if they see a sister jogging in anything other than baggy sweatpants. The control was textbook cult, i wish someone could dents Steve Hassan a copy of this.

how can anyone who has read the gospels thin JC would approve of this man or his vile words! For him to say that if you don't like this information, take it up with god as he holds up a wt printout. he is saying god wrote it! Can he get any more arrogant?? Who cannot see these guys have gotten really really full of themselves? If this is not arrogance, can a JW give me an example?

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How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse

by suavojr in

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the borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.

consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.

this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .

BU2B

Good points Suavojr- I have been taken off the reader list for the WT and Bible study. Yet I am still good enough for mikes. No explanation to me was given. I have not turned in time for 4 months and they have stopped asking. Maybe that has something to do with it..

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Child sex abuse cases mentioned at weekly meeting?

by HeyThere in

okay, tonight someone told me that one of the elders actually addressed the child sex abuse cases at the weeknight meeting this past week.

she said the speaker said that accusations are being made against the truth but that they should stand firm in the truth and that they are going to continue fighting these allegations and that all should stand firm for jehovah or some similar comments.... did anyone else hear this from the stage?.

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BU2B

Its pretty bold of them to call it a lie. Does the 2 witness rule exist or dosent it? If it does, why is it so hard to believe that this would be the result?

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