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  Grace Gough ("Mouthy") and the 83 Tapes

  by JW_Researcher in

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  grace gough (“mouthy’) sent me 83 cassette tapes 16 years ago (2006).. .

  when she sent them, i understood them to be ‘testimonies’ of jws who became christians.

  there are some labeled “so-and-so’s testimony” so at least some are that.. others appear to be talks, like the morning session of the 1981 “ex –jws for jesus” convention.

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  Hi, I have the tapes, I will check thoroughly to see if any of those tapes are in there. I haven't noticed them but I will check again and let you know!
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  Grace Gough ("Mouthy") and the 83 Tapes

  by JW_Researcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  grace gough (“mouthy’) sent me 83 cassette tapes 16 years ago (2006).. .

  when she sent them, i understood them to be ‘testimonies’ of jws who became christians.

  there are some labeled “so-and-so’s testimony” so at least some are that.. others appear to be talks, like the morning session of the 1981 “ex –jws for jesus” convention.

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  I am interested!
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  Thinking about the faders in Russia

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that you are fading and then, one day, the government bans your religion.. you no longer should have to fake it.

  your fade has now been done for you.. but, imagine the fader who now must attend bunker meetings just to maintain being part of the jw family.. for me, the ban would be my ticket out, but i imagine that some faders in russia are still forcing themselves to attend underground meetings.

  for those faders in unbanned countries: would a ban be your ticket to religious freedom?.

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  I think if I was in that position it would be what I need to break ties totally. I would never risk arrest or imprisonment for the cult. Keeping family happy has its limits
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  How was your wedding?

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how was your wedding?

  did you have a jw wedding or something different?

  my wedding was not what either of us wanted at first, but it turned out very lovely.

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  Ours was at the kingdom hall, 200 guests at a banquet center. I was so excited to be marrying the person I loved. Even though as a result of this marriage I am "stuck in" I have fond memories of that day
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  Just wondering who on this board has a spouse that is fully in and your awake?

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am just curious who on this board is in the same situation has i am?

  a spouse that is fully brain doogled in and you are awake to ttatt.. without going into serious detail and no names are given.

  i would like to possible talk with one of you all, it's just so helpful to communicate with someone in the same situation as me.. i am located in the southwest united states..

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  I'm located in central ny and my wife is fully in. I don't post much anymore but I'm still here! Read some of my older threads for my story
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  Hello everyone! I am new here and want to tell you about myself - my bio

  by Hollywood20 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  grew up in east la in a bad neighborhood to a black mother and white father.

  i never knew my father because he died in a car accident when i was a few weeks old.

  my mother converted as a jw soon after when two sisters came to her door and offered her comfort, which was something she needed.

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  First of all welcome to the forum! You have an amazing story and it captured me. I know all to well the pressure that comes from well meaning but manipulative loved ones. Just when you are going to break free, they reel us back in because the empathy and pain from seeing our loved ones in distress become too much. I too am still in, pretending to keep my marriage together. I don't really pretend that much, only accompany her to the meetings and about once a month into service. It's the price I pay to keep the peace.

  i too was baptized at 12 before I really had a clue. This is why they want child baptism, it keeps people like us stuck. You are fortunate in a few ways that some of us aren't

  1- you have a good talent

  2- you are still young

  3- you didn't marry a JW and

  4- don't have kids to worry about being indoctrinated.

  as far as this talent goes, I don't know your circumstances but it would help if you could move out on your own, that way you don't have to put up with the pressure from your mom. It will enable you to live your life without the scrutiny.

  I do know that you will have extreme regret if you look back when you are older and realize you wasted your talents and life doing something you don't even believe in, and lived someone else's life. One of the biggest deathbed regrets, is that a person lived the life OTHERSexpected them to, and we're not true to themselves.

  I know it will be extremely painful to let your mom down, but she has to be mature and realize that you are now an adult and can make your own decisions. It is selfish and wrong to expect a grown man to conform to parents wishes. As bad as the distress will be letting your mom down, a million times worse will be the pain of realizing you blew your skills and threw away this precious life you have.. Don't make that mistake. Get out there and start your life my friend!

  Again in welcome to the forum and pm me of you ever want to talk more.. -Joel
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  New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

  7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

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  This article does not seem to break any new ground, however judging by the wording they are getting desperate because too many JW are just not listening. This example of Anne is naked emotional blackmail. The mother is suffering, but the only way to end the suffering is to "return to Jehovah". Angus Stewart put it nicely when he said that JWs face a hostage situation, and a cruel choice. Geoffrey Jackson did not disagree. Lose your family or return to a cult. Maybe any family who would do this to someone does not deserve them and is not worthy of them anyways. So sad and infuriating to see this
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  This weeks service meeting! More craziness.....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so this weeks service meeting is so full of "crazy".

  a whole 15 min part devoted to trying to indoctrinate everyone on how to "explain our beliefs on 1914".

  then another 15 min part called "a tool to help us explain our beliefs about 1914".

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  No one, especially the householders give a $@it about 1914. This smacks of desperation. The JWs use the word Fact very loosely I might add. They may have FAITH in the date but certainly not facts lol
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  Tired of the truth... Tired of doubting

  by Deltawave in

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  2. experiences

  i'm reaching out here, i've known ttatt for about 3-4 years now.

  sadly when i first grasped it i had a total mental breakdown as i was a hard core firm to the core pioneer and 110% believer of my faith.!

  now nearly 2years on after my breakdown i still have to attend to please my jw wife.

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  I am in a similar boat. I have been fully awake since 2012. I have been through every stage you can be. Depression, anger, resentment, self medicating with alcohol etc. alcohol worked for a few months but eventually it makes things worse. I still attend most meetings because of my wife and occasional once a month FS for an hour. It's what i do to keep the peace until she wakes up or until I have enough strength to break free. I live with my wife and I can't stand for my home life to be that miserable. At first I researched day and night, read Ray Franz books, learned the true history of the org, blood issue, bible etc. I now know WHY they are wrong and have no more fear.

  Eventually I realized the whole bible is a fraud and am now agnostic! An agnostic with 2 young daughters and a fully in wife and parents.. Overwhelming if I let it be. I have given up trying to "wake up" my wife as I now realize this will only happen of her own accord. I try not to think about it too much.

  It's important to have a goal or some hope, if not real depression will set in. Work out, do fun things both with your family and alone, and enjoy life as best you can. Don't let this consume you. Don't let it destroy you. I think about those who have it worse and that helps too. Show love, which isn't always easy when struggling inside. Some days will be much harder than others, but keep pressing on. This forum has helped me so much, especially when first waking up
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  Theocratic Ministry School . . . is still there AND longer?

  by warehouse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i made a timeline based on the leaked letter, it is as follows:.

  edit: updated chart with color, because the html version was crap.

  so i know i might be crazy, but is the theocratic school still there, just called apply yourself to field ministry?

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  I think the meeting has gotten longer too! I think it's supposed to be 1hour 30min now and it seems like it's been extended by 10-15 minutes on an already long night. I expect attendance to drop even more