Posts by BU2B

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Night and Day from GB to Writing committee? Someone explain?

by thedepressedsoul in

im sure by now most of you are familiar with anthony morris talk from this weekend.

im even seeing memes posted all over instagram from jw mocking it.. here is my question, why are the things written so different from how the gb members, like anthony morris are?

i know the gb dont actually write the stuff but i was under the impression that they come up with the spiritual light pass if off to the writing committee and they put it in the publications.

BU2B

The most irritating thing is that they say the bible has laws and priciples. Ok fair enough. The problem is that the GB has seen fit to define said principles and make hundreds of mini laws relating to them. There is no room for the individual to work out how a certain principle may apply or not apply to them.

For instance, the scripture about modesty. Tony has told us straight up that yoga pants are NOT APPROPRIATE, and no one OF SOUND MIND would wear them and THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT. He has taken a principle and made it into law. If a JW woman as an individual decided they were not modest FOR HER thats fine. If another decided they were modest THATS FINE TOO! They are for the individual to decide between them and god how to apply the principle. 100 years ago a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking :). Now it is not. Fashions change and what is modest at one time and place is not in another time and place. Its not for Tony "Assclown" Morris to decide.

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Night and Day from GB to Writing committee? Someone explain?

by thedepressedsoul in

im sure by now most of you are familiar with anthony morris talk from this weekend.

im even seeing memes posted all over instagram from jw mocking it.. here is my question, why are the things written so different from how the gb members, like anthony morris are?

i know the gb dont actually write the stuff but i was under the impression that they come up with the spiritual light pass if off to the writing committee and they put it in the publications.

BU2B

The most explicit statements about 1975 were in talks, not in print. In a talk they could say the end WILL come in 1975, and if its in a talk, especially at a convention, it is considered true.

Beards, R rated movies, Avatar and many other things are not printed, yet are unwritten rules. These rules are just as binding as what is in print. If they are called out about it, they can say WE NEVER SAID THAT, just like 75'

Also, to be in print, most of the GB has to agree to its being published. This increases the chance of material being vetoed. In a talk, a GB member has free reign to spout out personal opinions as law without it having to run through an editing process.

One of the GB, I forget which, maybe Losch has gone on rants about american Football. He does not like it. That wouldnt get into print because they would never agree on printing it.

Morris has a hard on pun intended for tight pants for some reason. Maybe when he is sitting down and a handsome young brother is reading the WT Tony cant help but stare at something snaking down the leg of those tight pants.. He dosent like the feelings that he tries to supress coming to the fore, so he goes on rants about it lol

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Is the Society trying to self sabotage?

by truthseeker in

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i'm not going to list all the changes here that have happened in 2014, most of you who frequent the boards know about them.. in reference to anthony morris' talk, i can't help feel that the organization is behaving so abnormally out of character for itself that it is bewildering even to ex jws.. cultish behavior is perfectly normal for cults, but whats happened this year is so far out of whack it beggars belief.. what do they think they are doing?

are they psyching jws up for some major announcement?.

i can't help but feel that something really strange is going on, this does not feel like the regular "special announcements" followed by articles in the watchtower.. .

BU2B

The WT reminds me of North Korea. It is a spiritual North Korea in every sense. Although the leaders are clearly delusional, they keep pumping out the smiling faced propaganda, keep the big rallies going, and demand absolute obedience. If you dont toe the line you are DF or marganilized as non spiritual. In NK, you will be sent to concentration camps.

How many North Koreans actually buy the propaganda? How many are scared and just act? Who knows. Just like JW land.

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Elders are going to the CO on me

by cognac in

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i celebrated halloween and my birthday and the elders have been told.

husband told the elders i've called the religion a cult.

they said i'm "heading down a road to be an apostate.

BU2B

The flock book states that if you meet with an elder body IT SHOWS THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU FEEL YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ARRANGEMENT AND THE ORGANIZATION. It is for this reason I do not think I would ever appear before them. Whatever you choose I wish you the best.

My advice? Choose whichever path will cause you the LEAST stress.

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Over 1,000,000 in attendance and you are worried about tight pants?

by Separation of Powers in

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you know, rarely in the history of the org has a group this large congregated to hear from "mother.

" they incessantly speak of the huge group that met at yankee stadium in 1958...the over 250,000 that congregated to be instructed by jehovah.

but over the weekend, there were over 1,000,000 people excited to hear some type of direction, some type of encouragement, something to help them hang on "just a little longer.".

BU2B

Out of the 1000000 who heard this talk, how many were startled, stumbled, troubled, or enraged by his talk? I would think around 100,000. Of those it could start them on the road OUT of WTland.

I wish I could have footage of KH audiences around the US, with zoom capabilities and pausing to see peoples faces right when he made the craziest statements. I want to see how many look shocked, angry, and how many were smiling and nodding.

Even AMIII himself remarked that the talk would be conterversial and how other audiences who heard it got angry, to which he repeated, while holding a WT printout that he probably wrote himself- "take it up with god".

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Attention AMIII! you need to read WATCH OUT FOR SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS- A WT you would never see today!

by BU2B in

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i was reading an article from a '95 wt called "watch out for self righteousness" it exposes amiii as a true pharisee by their own definition.

the style and content sound a lot like ray franz but it obviously was not.

i am confident you would never see an article like this in todays wt land.

BU2B

One Eyed Joe- It was the closest I have ever come to standing up, openly making a comment and calling out the hateful nonsense he was spewing and walking out. I only refrained because my wife and child do not deserve to bear the embarassment. To see the sheeple heads nodding, and the roaring applause only made me angrier. My blood boiled, and I had intense anger beyond the usual. This hppened when he catagorically called marrying a non appointed JW a MISTAKE you will pay for! Worse than his words were his body language and attitude and his constant "take it up with god" comments. I was seeing red and still am. How people can not see that he is a cruel harsh man is amazing.

I MEAN LOOK AT THE GB!! Pharisee Tony Morris? Heavens Gates own Steve Lett?? I mean really? This is the best God could do? These are the people you must OBEY OR DIE at Armagedon?

The words I would like to use to describe this guy would get me banned from the forum. Again, whats worse than Morris?? The head bobbing sheeple, who eat up his hateful words like they are from God. Idiots.

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Over 1,000,000 in attendance and you are worried about tight pants?

by Separation of Powers in

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you know, rarely in the history of the org has a group this large congregated to hear from "mother.

" they incessantly speak of the huge group that met at yankee stadium in 1958...the over 250,000 that congregated to be instructed by jehovah.

but over the weekend, there were over 1,000,000 people excited to hear some type of direction, some type of encouragement, something to help them hang on "just a little longer.".

BU2B

Nothing about world events, prophecy, or anything. Just look how many languages we translate! Get to morning worship from 90 Sands on time! Gay men love it when you wear tight pants.. He would know..

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Over 1,000,000 in attendance and you are worried about tight pants?

by Separation of Powers in

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friends

you know, rarely in the history of the org has a group this large congregated to hear from "mother.

" they incessantly speak of the huge group that met at yankee stadium in 1958...the over 250,000 that congregated to be instructed by jehovah.

but over the weekend, there were over 1,000,000 people excited to hear some type of direction, some type of encouragement, something to help them hang on "just a little longer.".

BU2B

Also the OP is correct. This may be the largest gathering of JWs ever to hear the same program from the same speakers, and this was the best they could come up with??? Bashing clothing choices? Creating class distinctions? Telling people if they dont save money from their low paying job and travel to take a 1 hour tour of a factory, then they are not "spiritual"? Telling 1,000,000 people that marrying a non MS no matter how nice they are is a "mistake you will pay for"!

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Over 1,000,000 in attendance and you are worried about tight pants?

by Separation of Powers in

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friends

you know, rarely in the history of the org has a group this large congregated to hear from "mother.

" they incessantly speak of the huge group that met at yankee stadium in 1958...the over 250,000 that congregated to be instructed by jehovah.

but over the weekend, there were over 1,000,000 people excited to hear some type of direction, some type of encouragement, something to help them hang on "just a little longer.".

BU2B

The Rank and file cant wear colourful socks, yet the GB can all wear pinky rings... Ok then

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Does having priveleges in the congregation mean you will have a successful marriage?

by hoser in

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after reading about tight pant tony's rant about sisters only marrying ministerial servants lest their marriage will be a failure what anecdotal evidence do you have to support this.

the divorces that i am familiar with in the congregation show me that having priveledges in the congregation do not improve the odds of a better marriage.

i would say about 60% of the divorces had at least one spouse who was a pioneer, elder or ministerial servant.

BU2B

He also stated that if a baptized male is not a MS or Elder without a "really good reason" he is suspect. He explicitly stated that marrying a non appointed man is a "mistake"! My blood boiled. He also alluded to the idea that if you dont hold a rank you are scum when he said that raising 7 kids, 5 of which are appointed, 2 of which are still JW but NOt APPOINTED is a reason for grief over the failure! The message was clear as day! If you arent appointed you are Suspect and a spiritual loser!

Common sense would tell a woman that its not the title, but the person that counts. Most of the kind loving JW men left are no longer serving.. Spiritual pond scum.