repost here for lurkers and newbies... if you would like a pdf copy please pm me, i have permission to distribute the english translation electronically from the author's, joseph wilting, family (my family)..
click on my name, and that will take you to my profile, and there's a Send Message button. I just need an email address.
I am able to distribute it free of charge in English, it was published and sold in Europe originally. Joseph has since passed, and the family will work on translating his second.book to English as well for me.
I will send out copies tonight, at work today and can't get to personal email :-[
repost here for lurkers and newbies... if you would like a pdf copy please pm me, i have permission to distribute the english translation electronically from the author's, joseph wilting, family (my family)..
From the foreward:
"First of all, I sincerely hope that neither my words nor my experiences will be interpreted as some kind of revenge, or the result of any bitter feelings, or a witchhunt aimed at Jehovah's Witnesses. However, I must admit to having such feelings when I discovered that I had been deceived for several decades by false and divergent teaching regarding Jesus and His so-called "Second Coming" in 1914. At first, during the period of change from the old to the new way of life, I felt bitterness, aggression and resentment for all those who had both misled me and presented me with a false hope, and these negative feelings must no doubt have been evident in the first interviews and talks I gave after leaving Jehovah's Witnesses.
All that is left now is a burning desire to help Jehovah's Witnesses. When I meet them on the street I greet them and I long to talk with them. But this I cannot do, for the Watchtower Society forbids all Jehovah's Witnesses to talk to former members. They are not even allowed to greet me!
Nevertheless I pray for them all, and I pray that God will open their eyes. The Watchtower Society depicts me as an apostate. Rumors are spread all over Norway that I have been guilty of embezzlement and "wife swapping", in fact that I have led a very debauched sex life. Since no one dares to make these accusations openly, I cannot "prove" that they are false by taking legal action, and although many Jehovah's Witnesses might wish to greet me, they dare not do so because this has been prohibited by the leaders, who have described me as an "evil servant". A Witnesses seen talking to me could risk being disfellowshiped.
Therefore, it is of the utmost importance that other people are informed about how the Jehovah's Witnesses cult is built up, how the system itself - the Watchtower hierarchy - is formed, and the effect on each individual member of the cult. Not least is this important for psychologists and other medical personnel who may have to treat Jehovah's Witnesses, who are riddled with phobia and misconceptions implanted by the Watchtower Society.
Therefore, it is my hope that this book will help to reveal the way a Witnesses thinks, and the sort of methods and tactics the Society employs to keep control over the minds of its members. " - Joseph Wilting
repost here for lurkers and newbies... if you would like a pdf copy please pm me, i have permission to distribute the english translation electronically from the author's, joseph wilting, family (my family)..
Repost here for lurkers and newbies... if you would like a PDF copy please PM me, I have permission to distribute the English translation electronically from the author's, Joseph Wilting, family (my family).
if u don't mind saying if u r kiwi or aussie, and basic info like m/f, how long in, how long out, or if fading like me.. im female i live in aussie but born in nz fading the last few months.
know it ain't the truth, but am married with little kids and closest family and friends all in.
trying the slow fade and hoping my husband will do the same... being very gentle with him... .
Hey SkyGreen,
Aussie, born in and left three years ago at 23, faded for a while but all family and ex-husband etc all devout JWs, so disassociated myself, then left the husband and started afresh.
Hope things go well with your husband!
PM me if you want to talk.
thank you for this forum.
thank you for your stories which helped wake me up from my delusion.
thank you for letting me join you.
Welcome :)
i'm watching this movie, it's a horror movie.
it seems to be based on the crazy westboro church, except they are doing more than just protesting funerals.
it's scary!
bump.
Good movie, just saw it now (uni holidays!)
Anything about cults still gives me the creeps though.
australia's prime minister julia gillard has announced a national royal commission into child abuse within religions and religious charities (not-for-profit sector).
julia gillard announces royal commission will probe child sex abuse.
royal commission to probe child abuse.
<3 it. Maybe she's not so bad after all...
I came here all gleeful to break the news too, good to see others are more prompt than I :)
i am infp.. some former witnesses in my hometown had a meetup last night...alas, only four of us.
but it turned out we had an infp(me), two infjs, and an enfp.
therefore, it turned out we were all idealists.
INTJ ... represent :)
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thank's for the new word "eisegesis", while reading your article on jesus christ's mediatorship between mankind and the annointed (now governing body) 144,000.. you content is very good as you present your case with valuable insights without attacking witnesses as "morons, idiots, cult" or like some other agencies do!
cheerio!.
He is awesome yes, he's an old family friend and we catch up sporadically :)
just curious, something i've noticed only lately.
i'm in the mix within the congregation, stay late after the meeting is over, converse with quite a few people afterwards, make plans for saturday and sometimes sunday service and yet i feel so awfully alone walking to my car afterwards.
i feel lonely when i'm talking and laughing with people after the meeting.
Always, barely had a couple of people I called friends. Everyone was always gossiping about everyone else behind their back.
