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  whats everybody doing this weekend?

  by deservingone26 in

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  whats everybody doing this weekend?

  i have no plans tryin to figure out what im gonna do tired of doing what i usually do which is go out and drink .

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  Robdar

  Going to sit for a couple of hours with a bipolar friend recovering from an attempted suicide.
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  Why does God permit suffering? Don't let others answer this question for you

  by sabastious in

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  2. friends

  wasn't the answer to this question wrapped up in a neat little package when you were young?

  it was easily explainable and it made you feel so warm inside that you knew that god felt passionately bad about the suffering and that it was going to stop.. there is so much pain in this world.

  people are starving, people are being torchered by others who have lost their minds, there is endless suffering on this planet.

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  Robdar

  I like what you had to say Sabatious and am in agreement.

  Instead of crying and whining about sky daddy not taking care of us, we should all get off our lazy asses and take responsibility for what happens on this planet. Afterall, we're the ones who screwed it up. God aint got nothing to do with it.
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  Do people generally like you?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in person, people tend to love me.

  i'm told how likeable i am.. on discussion boards i have unlikeable qualities which infuriate others.. .

  are you likeable in person and likeable on boards?

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  I think I amuse some and annoy others on this forum. I am sensitive to others' pain but believe that everybody needs to eventually straighten their back and face their problems. It seems as if some posters need to be babied and sometimes I can empathize with them. Other times I have to fight a strong urge to tell them to quiet down and grow the hell up. Afterall, there is only so much whining a person should be subjected to by a total stranger.

  In r/l, most people tell me that they find me to be honest and trustworthy. Many people ask for my opinions.

  Throughout my life I've met many people who seem to be wounded psychologically and they tend to rely on me for moral support knowing I will not judge them or betray their confidences. I am an intent listener and can visualize what others are saying. Many people tell me their secrets but there are very few I will tell mine. Even then, I am selective about what I will tell them and prefer to keep my privacy.

  I have many acquaintances and a few friends but prefer the peace of nature and the company of animals over the company of most people.
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  the other side of my story and why im going back

  by deservingone26 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are two parts to this topic you can read one or the other or both if you want, i just figured i post this for differents ones who might being going thru what i am going thru i tried to write this as quick as possible so everything i am posting here is not to offend anyone i know everyone has the own opinions on different things so you can disagree or agree, but this is where i stand.

  sorry for any spelling errors or grammar issues up front.

  my story .

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  Robdar

  PC, I LUV it when you play rough. Go put on your fishnets, darling.

  BTW, great advice to deservingone.
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  Contrast and compare: Mom/Dad in teaching you about God/Religion

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my ideas about god were not specific teachings as a small child.. my mom liked to read the book of revelation out loud to me.

  the scorpions stinging with head's like men; that sort of weird shit!.

  my grandmother was reared a catholic and had been instructed by nuns!

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  Robdar

  My father was very religious and giving sermons by the age of six at the local Baptist church in the small southern town where he grew up. At the age of 20 he started studying with JWs. He was baptized when I was 4 years old. My mother when I was 8. My father started studying with me at the age of 5 in the Paradise Lost book. How well I remember all the horrifying images including those of the ground opening up and swallowing the pets of the godless who deserved to die at armageddon.

  My mother left all religious instruction to my father.

  I was the first one in my family to leave the WTS. I suffered for my decision at the hand of my father who, among other things, disowned me for a while. Funny, I was never reprimanded by others in my congregation, only my father. This went on for years and I never, not once, responded in anger towards him. Finally, one day at the breakfast table, I asked him whose faith we were really discussing, mine or his? My father, an honest man, had to answer that we were indeed discussing his faith. That one question opened up a whole new dialogue.

  My parents are finally out. I am so thankful. I haven't a clue as to why I am crying as I write this.
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  the other side of my story and why im going back

  by deservingone26 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are two parts to this topic you can read one or the other or both if you want, i just figured i post this for differents ones who might being going thru what i am going thru i tried to write this as quick as possible so everything i am posting here is not to offend anyone i know everyone has the own opinions on different things so you can disagree or agree, but this is where i stand.

  sorry for any spelling errors or grammar issues up front.

  my story .

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  Robdar

  Why in the world are you here trying to explain yourself to a bunch of people you do not even know? You've decided it's the truth? Well, big effing deal. Most of us don't give one hoot, so go back already and quit your whining.

  See ya! Wouldn't want to be ya!
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  The secret of how Christianity spread across the world

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what i am going to say may sound nasty and mean-spirited.

  i assure you it is not intended in that tone.. men are power seekers and control freaks.

  without using women as drones to do the grunt work of religion.

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  Robdar

  From: Robdar’s husband,

  Terry I was delighted to read these words from your pen

  Thinking about things we have always accepted in a NEW or FRESH way isn't easy, I know.

  There is a tension which is hard to overcome.

  One way to approach things from a fresh perspective is to begin with humilty.

  Yes, humility. A willingness to be wrong if the facts can persuade.

  But, without a willingness to let go you will never change your ideas.

  Much of your documentation comes from history books. As an academic I value highly the knowledge that can be gained from books, but I am also aware of the fact that history is written by the victors and most historical research is based on exhaustive archival work which were also the province of the victor.

  I am sure that you will find this an oversimplification but as far as I can tell from my cursory reading of your postings, your position is men are brutish and power hungry. Women are conniving and manipulative. AND women have the added advantage of providing the earliest education to their children. Yet this ignores the fact that at one point the peer group becomes the dominant influence and these peer groups typically begin unisexually (i.e., groups of boys hang around with each other and groups of girls hang around with themselves). So perhaps the spread of Christianity could be more attributable to values inculcated in Constantine’s youth by his male friends. I’m just asking you to look at this from a fresh perspective . Furthermore, could his quest to spread Christianity have succeeded without the support of the military? I am aware of few leaders (dictators or otherwise) who have ever successfully challenged their own military. But I would be happy to read a brief summary of any who did. Nor have I ever thought of the military as a matriarchal organization.

  Alternate explanations have been put forward. I am not saying that I agree with them, only that they are plausible. I am sure you are well versed in the writings of Teilhard who proposes a teleological view of the evolution of spirituality. Now, of course, not all teleology is correct, witness the errors to which it led Marx, but it still remains a plausible hypothesis by a prominent paleontologist.

  At first I thought you were being misogynistic, but after skimming your voluminous writings it is unclear whether you hate women, men, or just everybody. Much of your argument seems to center on women pulling the strings behind the throne. Does this mean that men are so weak intellectually they are consistently victims of women leading them around by their noses?

  Could it be something as simple as men and women are complementary? Each has entrée to different groups. And both genders working toward a common purpose may be one of many reasons for the spread of Christianity. Could its early popularity and survival be attributed to an oppressed group banding together and developing solidarity in the face of their oppression?

  I guess in the end, historical events are always the result of a complex interaction between existing social orders, events, and ideas. To reduce it to the role of only one force is, for lack of a better word, reductionist.
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  My cat

  by imconfused in

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  2. family

  this is probably the stupidest thing to ever be wriiten on here, but i need to just talk/type it out.. my cat got run over last night & killed, i am a complete mess.

  my hubby has gone away with work today for a few days today so im on my own & i cant cope.

  i know loads of you will think, it was just a cat get over it, but dam i hurt so much.

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  Robdar

  (((((imconfused)))))

  Bless your dear heart. You are not being silly to grieve the loss of your beloved kitty. The other posters have given good advice. All I can add to it is to remind you to eat and rest when you can.

  Much love to you.

  Robyn
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  The secret of how Christianity spread across the world

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what i am going to say may sound nasty and mean-spirited.

  i assure you it is not intended in that tone.. men are power seekers and control freaks.

  without using women as drones to do the grunt work of religion.

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  Shelby,

  As always, I found your post interesting. I was not aware that all fundamentalist christians do not blame Eve for their perceived fall from grace. Thank you for clearing up my misconception.

  Much love to you.

  Robyn
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  The secret of how Christianity spread across the world

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what i am going to say may sound nasty and mean-spirited.

  i assure you it is not intended in that tone.. men are power seekers and control freaks.

  without using women as drones to do the grunt work of religion.

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  Robdar

  Hi Terry, thanks for replying. My husband is actully interested in this thread (by all means it is not a boring discussion) and would like to read through it and maybe respond. I look forward to what both of you have to say in regards to this matter. He'll look over it when he gets back from the market.

  Later.