so, i told my wife about the july km news that we'd be studying the revelation book again.
"good," she said.
"good?
I still have my 1988 edition of the Revelation book.
If anyone saw all my marks, notes, etc.- you would have thought I was studying to prepare a thesis for college.
If anyone has forgotten the following chapters: 21-24- " Jehovah's Plagues on Christendom"; "The First Woe- Locusts"; The Second Woe- Armies of Cavalry" , and "A Sweet and Bitter Message"- then you will know how ridiculous this book really is and was.
And to believe we fell for this garbage!!!
Ronin1
i've been a member of this fourm for quite sometime although i rarely post.
i do however, have my story posted on shauns' site http://jwfiles.com/jws-leaving/william.htm i also wrote and article for that site comparing the prophecies of 1925 and 1975. http://jwfiles.com/1925-1975.htm just a little background on me: i served as an elder in philadelphia.
i was the cong sec.
I was one of the many hundreds that helped renovate the Stanley Theatre Assembly Hall in Jersey City, NJ.
It is a beautiful place and very expensive to maintain.
The borg knew exactly what they were doing when they fought the establishment to get this property.
Ronin1
i've been a member of this fourm for quite sometime although i rarely post.
i do however, have my story posted on shauns' site http://jwfiles.com/jws-leaving/william.htm i also wrote and article for that site comparing the prophecies of 1925 and 1975. http://jwfiles.com/1925-1975.htm just a little background on me: i served as an elder in philadelphia.
i was the cong sec.
WTLies:
Thank you for this explanation.
My husband and I could not understand how at every circuit assembly there would be a surplus, then deficit, then surplus, then deficit...........etc.
It just did not make sense.
Many years ago we stopped giving donations at the circuit and district assemblies. We only donated for the up-keep of the KH.
Ronin1
i am re-posting in the hopes that someone can give me an answer to my search:if anyone is from ny and knows the roundtrees-jim (james) and antoinette roundtree.
they were bethelites for a long time- assigned to the lakeview congregation in queens,ny- now dissolved- changed to the st. albans or linden congregation in queens, ny.
if anyone knows whether they were also asked to leave bethel or transferred to wakill or paterson,, or where they are, let me know.
I am re-posting in the hopes that someone can give me an answer to my search: If anyone is from NY and knows the Roundtrees-Jim (James) and Antoinette Roundtree.
They were Bethelites for a long time- assigned to the Lakeview Congregation in Queens,NY- now dissolved- changed to the St. Albans or Linden Congregation in Queens, NY.
If anyone knows whether they were also asked to leave Bethel or transferred to Wakill or Paterson,, or where they are, let me know.
They were a really nice couple and Jim Roundtree performed our wedding talk for our marriage 12 years ago.
Thanks,
Ronin1
this came up in a conversation with a non witness friend lately.
he said its like i thought i was having theological discussions all the time but from what he could tell...i would go to the door with prearranged comments, which would illicit one of a few comments and my response would be as programmed as the initial comments.
i'm no brainy person.. and freely admit i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Yes.
With my mom, late father, brothers and sisters.
Our discussions were great.
Ronin1
i haven't been to a meeting in 3 years and when i tell people about my past, i tell them i used to be a witness.
I think everyone should realize what and who a witness of Jehovah is. Not a person necessarily belonging to any organization.
I witness of Jehovah is one who witnesses and proclaims the truths about Almighty God, his son Jesus Christ, and the hope of the Kingdom, etc..
Therefore, I will always consider myself a Witness of Jehovah in how I conduct my life and treat others in the Christ-like way. However, I will never allow myself to be associated with a man-made religious organization.
There is an account in the Bible (I cannot remember the exact scriptures) where Jesus' Apostles wanted to stop a man from preaching or praising Jesus or God because they felt he did not have the holy spirit or was not one of the Apostles and doing it-their way. Jesus reprimanded them and advise them to let the man preach or praise God because it was a good thing, etc.
My point is that there are many witnesses of Jehovah in the world, not just in the WTS organization.
Ronin1
a lot has happened since i last posted.
i was caught associating with my apostate brother at my own house.
we were eating together.
Hi:
I think it was great what you did.
The elders and WTS think they can use scare tactics on everyone and pressure them into submission to their ways.
You showed them who's really boss.
Good for you..............do not despair.
You will find as each day goes by how really free you are. Remember Jesus Christ admonishment at John 8:32: " and you will know the truth and the truth will set you free".
Ronin1
a lot has been said lately about bethel downsizing and here is what i believe the true story is.. watch where the money is and where it goes.
a lot of large company's now are doing two things to maximise profits and bolster the bottom line.. downsizing the amount of people they did gives them extra money and real estate space (yes people are a liability even when small) and the potential to flip real estate in nyc.
the second stage is outsourcing jobs...think it can't happen??
This is my take on the entire Bethelites being asked to leave situation:
The WTS is hurting for cash flow-not assets. Also, they have many pending lawsuits up their asses..................they need to free up whatever assets they have to turn into cash flow to handle these problems.
Also, do not be fooled..........the WTS are and have been for the last decade making plans to protect their assets and possibly move their monies/assets out of the US into off-shore entities- financial captives.
They made a very strange move some time ago by appling for a business ID number here in Florida. Figure out the geography......... I believe there was a thread on this.
Watch in the future.............if they move their assets/monies off-shore- no US lawsuits can touch them.
I could be wrong, but I do not think I am.
Any thoughts?
Ronin1
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if anyone is from ny and knows the roundtrees-jim and antoinette roundtree.. they were bethelites for a long time- assigned to the lakeview congregation in queens,ny- now dissolved- changed to the st. albans or linden congregation in queens, ny.. if anyone knows whether they were also asked to leave bethel or transferred to wakill or paterson,, or where they are, let me know.. they were a really nice couple and jim roundtree performed our wedding talk for our marriage 12 years ago.. thanks,.
ronin1
If anyone is from NY and knows the Roundtrees-Jim and Antoinette Roundtree.
They were Bethelites for a long time- assigned to the Lakeview Congregation in Queens,NY- now dissolved- changed to the St. Albans or Linden Congregation in Queens, NY.
If anyone knows whether they were also asked to leave Bethel or transferred to Wakill or Paterson,, or where they are, let me know.
They were a really nice couple and Jim Roundtree performed our wedding talk for our marriage 12 years ago.
Thanks,
Ronin1
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this is the official line that was given.
i did not hear this myself from a speaker but got it second hand, and those who are faithful believe it.. so far 350 have been asked to leave, one couple with as much as 30 years full time service with most of it at bethel.. oc
This is my take on the entire Bethelites being asked to leave:
The WTS is hurting for cash flow-not assets. Also, they have many pending lawsuits up their asses..................they need to free up whatever assets they have to turn into cash flow to handle these problems.
Also, do not be fooled..........the WTS are and have been for the last decade making plans to protect their assets and possibly move their monies/assets out of the US into off-shore entities- financial captives.
They made a very strange move some time ago by appling for a business ID number here in Florida. Figure out the geography......... I believe there was a thread on this.
Watch in the future.............if they move their assets/monies off-shore- no US lawsuits can touch them.
I could be wrong, but I do not think I am.
Any thoughts?
Ronin1
