okay everyone ... here are some highlights from this weekend's brci conference held in itasca, illinois, close to chicago o'hare airport.
it was two full days, from friday at 9:00 am to 7:00 pm and sat.
9:00 am to 9:00 pm.
FredHall wrote:
I heard a cat sneek into the conferance.
Hey, Freddy ... yes, we got your little present from "Hell" (Hell, Michigan, that is--which they tell me has been known to 'freeze over') Got a remailer buddy there, eh! :-)))))
Oh, and thanks for this reply. Some folks didn't seem to believe me when I told 'em it was from you, heh, heh. ;)
Blessings,
there are certainly enough valid criticisms of the wts and the jw religion, but a significant number of often-repeated criticisms of the religion are, imnsho, just ludicruous and serves to take attention away from the real issues.
significant problems with the wts includes, but are not limited to, the shunning policy, the blood issue and of course the corporate policy of hiding child molestors.. here is a list of criticisms of the wts that i find particularly annoying to see:.
russell was a freemason (or, even worse, the wts is part of some other large-scale conspiracy like the illuminati).
Good post, Jan.
Another favorite "stupid criticism" of mine is the fundamentalist claim that Jehovah's Witnesses ignore Jesus ("don't know the real Jesus") because they don't tout the trinity, when in fact the WT teaches Christ is the mediator.
~Ros
are there 1000's all over the net just waiting to be found?.
at the moment, i'm only aware of "beyond j w" where i started and various communities such as belief net and jw discussion areas on aol etc, and obviously kents new board.
does anyone have a list?.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
so, what do canadians have to be proud of?
1. smarties .
2. crispy crunch, coffee crisp .
Prisca:
I think national pride is something everyone should have as long as there are nations. There are things to be proud of in every culture.
I don't see "American pride" being based on comparison or competition with other countries. National pride should stand on its own.
It's not Canadian pride that has come to my attention in recent years--I expected that as a matter of fact. It's their anti-Americanism that has amazed me. We don't feel that way toward Canadians, and I think most U.S. citizens are wholly ignorant of it. I think it is sad because we could be such good neighbors. I think Canadians could do a lot more to develop tourism from the U.S. and not concern themselves with the politics. I don't.
jmho,
Ros
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
so, what do canadians have to be proud of?
1. smarties .
2. crispy crunch, coffee crisp .
Hi, again, Kis:
Sorry if my response implied offense. It's just that in the forums I mentioned, some of the Canadian discussion toward the U.S. has bordered on almost political rage. It has really bewildered me because I was so naive about it. In growing up I never thought much about Canada any differently than a bordering state.
First time I visited Canada was a DA in Vancouver. I was surprised they even had different money and called "french fries" potato chips and ate them with vinegar instead of catsup. :-)
Sorry I offended.
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
so, what do canadians have to be proud of?
1. smarties .
2. crispy crunch, coffee crisp .
Hi, HS!
Looks like some of us are on-line about the same time.
You said:
I presume you mean Canadian attitudes to the USWell, in the case of Kismet's post, yes.
How does one define "discrimination" and "generalization", and why doesn't it apply to everyone?
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
so, what do canadians have to be proud of?
1. smarties .
2. crispy crunch, coffee crisp .
Hi, again, Kismet:
You said you have heard a lot of jokes by Americans about Canadians. That's interesting because I've never heard Canadian jokes, and I have lived most of my life in border states. From time-to-time, this has been a topic of discussion on one of my private e-mail groups where some exJW Canadians participate.
I've heard numerous jokes and resentments about "Americans" by Canadians in these forums, but only recently I heard the first Canadian joke I can ever remember. I mention this because it has come to my awareness only in very recent years, in exJW discussion groups. I was blissfully unaware of it before.
Blessings,
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
so, what do canadians have to be proud of?
1. smarties .
2. crispy crunch, coffee crisp .
Hi, Kismet:
You wrote:
Sorry if this offended you but we (Canadians) are just learning how to be outwardly patriotic...Nothing wrong with that. Next step is to learn to express it without negative implications toward another country. ;-)
Ros
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
today i received greg stafford's new book three dissertations on the teachings of jehovah's witnesses.
for those who don't know, stafford has been a staunch defender of the watchtower society's teachings for at least six years, on the net and in print.
his previous book, jehovah's witnesses defended (1998, 2000), is a milestone in pro-jw literature.. the new book is a radical departure from stafford's previous book in that he strongly questions the society's doctrines about blood transfusions, the basis for the claim of spiritual authority by jw leaders, the necessity for christians to believe the society's 1914 doctrine, and issues of "legalism" including the propriety of requiring "time" in the field ministry to be reported, and even the supposed scriptural basis for the society's ban on celebrating birthdays and christmas.
Yes, Hess came to a BRCI immediately after his DFing and was still in shock and disbelief. His relationship with his wife and family was immediately being torn apart because of it.
Re: Greg, what if he does NOT get DF'd? I'm thinking what that might signal. Later. ;-)
Ros
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
today i received greg stafford's new book three dissertations on the teachings of jehovah's witnesses.
for those who don't know, stafford has been a staunch defender of the watchtower society's teachings for at least six years, on the net and in print.
his previous book, jehovah's witnesses defended (1998, 2000), is a milestone in pro-jw literature.. the new book is a radical departure from stafford's previous book in that he strongly questions the society's doctrines about blood transfusions, the basis for the claim of spiritual authority by jw leaders, the necessity for christians to believe the society's 1914 doctrine, and issues of "legalism" including the propriety of requiring "time" in the field ministry to be reported, and even the supposed scriptural basis for the society's ban on celebrating birthdays and christmas.
Does anyone know who owns Elihu Books?
Greg was asked this question on Channel C board not long ago.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi
Greg replied that he owns Elihu Books.
As Alan mentioned, it will be interesting to see how this turns out for him. I hope there will be some followup discussion about it with him on Channel C.
Thanks for your thoughts, Alan. I haven't had the opportunity to read it yet. Now I'm really baited.
Ros
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7
