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The Hailstone Message :2018 Assembly

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the following is the talk of the assembly followed by my 15 minutes commentary.i have included part of my notes below which i used for the commentary .

what is the hailstone message?.

is it literal or symbolic?.

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sorry guys I forgot to mention ...this is for believers only

BUT even if you are not a believer you can see the WT inaccuracies in their doctrine

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The Hailstone Message :2018 Assembly

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the following is the talk of the assembly followed by my 15 minutes commentary.i have included part of my notes below which i used for the commentary .

what is the hailstone message?.

is it literal or symbolic?.

jwdoctrine

The following is the talk of the assembly followed by my 15 minutes commentary.i have included part of my notes below which I used for the commentary

WHAT IS THE HAILSTONE MESSAGE?

IS IT LITERAL OR SYMBOLIC?

The Hailstone Message

For years now the Watchtower has been promoting the idea that Jehovah’s Witnesses all over the world go from door to door in fulfillment of Matthew 24:14: “ And the good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come”.This message consists from a “message of good will” preached to the world up to the time of the the Great Tribulation and a message of “judgement”during the Great Tribulation .The talk you’ve just seen was a talk about this message of judgement which apparently has been prophesied in the book of Revelation as a “hailstone message” but as always is this the case?

So this is the verse in question(read rev. 16:21)

The Watchtower has for years now portrayed the verse in Revelation 16:21 as a symbolism ,referring to it a hard hitting message of judgement upon the world .But is this explanation solidly based based on the Bible? Let’s find out :

W84 3/15 p.19 par 17

One of the basic rule of Bible interpretation is to consider a verse in the light of its immediate context.Every Bible scholar on this planet will tell you that ripping verses out of their immediate context and then applying interpretation is the worst most dangerous way to interpret the Bible.So what does the immediate context has to say in Revelation 16? Are these literal hailstones falling of the sky OR a symbolic “haistone message?” Let’s read the immediate context from verse 17:

There is absolutely nothing in the immediate context about a symbolic hailstone message .All we have is physical phenomena like hailstones and earthquakes and physical bodies like cities islands and mountains .This has nothing to do with a witnessing and everything to do with physical disasters plagues upon the humankind.

In actual fact the cross references that the NWT itself provides for this verse point to physical disasters and nothing symbolic

In many ways the end of the world will be similar to the end of the kingdom of Egypt back in the days of Moses.In the same way Jehovah destroyed the nation of Egypt with the use of 10 plagues God will incorporate similar plagues to accomplish his judgement upon mankind but this time in a worldwide scale. In fact the Watchtower having seen the obvious of this interpretation half admits its validity in the book Revelation-Its Grand Climax at Hand! The now out of print commentary of the last book of the Bible

re chap. 32 p. 234 pars. 38-39

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The Attack by Gog of Magog: 2018 Convention

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the attack by gog of magog with commentary watch to the end.

talk from the 2018 convention .watch till the end.

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The Bible uses both expressions

Gog and Magog (=place)

&

Gog of Magog (=person)

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The Attack by Gog of Magog: 2018 Convention

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the attack by gog of magog with commentary watch to the end.

talk from the 2018 convention .watch till the end.

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The Attack by Gog of Magog with Commentary watch to the End

Talk from the 2018 Convention .Watch till the end

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Anybody here still believe in the bible?

by Mel Morris in

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i'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.

i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.

i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.

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I believe in the Bible .What is it that you want to discuss?

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2018 Convention :The Cry for "Peace & Security"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsk2k9y7qs&t=835s.

the talk of the cry for "peace & security" from the sunday morning program.

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I found the videos related to its talk completely unrelated, what do you think? The cry for Peace & Security can that boil down to you now signing a form that will help your business not go out of business? Mind-bending!

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